Tuning in…
Tuning in…
Castaway
1 appearance
Chef and restaurateur who, with Rose Gray, rewrote the rule book of dining out at The River Cafe.
On the island
Eight records
For me Motown was really important and it focussed on a part of America that just had such great songs and dignity and politics.
I just love it. It's my favorite musical of all time.
Goldberg Variations: AriaFavourite
I love the piano. And so I've chosen the Aria from Bach's Goldberg variation.
It's just such a beautiful love song.
This beautiful aria makes me think of Rose and the times we had.
I did a lot of singing with my children. I love to sing. And this song I really love because I think it's probably a kind of very basic socialist song.
I'd like to play this in memory of my beautiful boy.
I think he saw This Land is Your Land as an anthem for those people.
In conversation
Presenter asks
1:59How important is the actual meal?
Oh, the meal is crucial. You know, we're chefs, we're every minute thinking about the food on the plate, but most of all the cooking. And people do very private things in a very public space. But if it's centered around a very good meal, then I think that definitely is the crucial factor.
Presenter asks
2:51What rules do you hope that they learned at your stove that they are executing in their kitchens?
That's a good question. People say to me sometimes, what talent do you look for in a chef? And I say, Well, it's not just the talent to cook, it's a talent to work with another person and the team. It's a talent to teach. It's a talent to accept criticism. It's a talent to, of course, be neat and clean and that you treat people with respect. I think Rose and I really wanted to run a kitchen through hope rather than fear.
Presenter asks
6:11Were you the sort of little girl who would stand by the stove and help, or were you out doing other things?
We always ate very well. All the food was fresh and if we were having corn for lunch we bought it in the morning. If we were having corn for dinner we bought it in the afternoon. But m the meals were really about talk. We sat down at the table and we we talked about politics. We talked about my father would tell stories. It was a very talky household. You know, conversation was huge.
The keepsakes
The book
The River Cafe Classic Italian Cookbook
Ruth Rogers and Rose Gray
if it doesn't sound too egotistical to take something co-written by myself, I would like to take the River Cafe classic cookbook. It's the last book that I did with Rose. And there are photographs of Rose and myself, there are photographs of our families.
The luxury
Bottle of extra virgin olive oil
I would take a bottle of extra virgin olive oil that had been pressed at either Felsena or Fontodi, our favorite vineyards.
Presenter asks
9:42Did you feel invigorated by that sort of protest [the anti-Vietnam protest]?
Yeah. Uh when I came here I realized that I couldn't get away from what was going on in the world and Vietnam was strong here. Europe was thinking about it and there were the riots in France and I thought I would come to Europe to have an, you know, experience of Europe. But what we really did was political work.
Presenter asks
12:59What happened to you [when you fell in love with Richard]?
It was tumultuous. Richard, um you know, my family were in the United States. Richard has three fantastic children. It was there were two families. I have huge respect and love Sue Rogers and there was a lot happening and um I think that the main focus for everyone in the family were the children.
Presenter asks
14:01What do you remember of that time professionally for him [Richard and the Pompidou Centre]?
It was amazing because I mean the stories go on and on about how Richard really didn't want to enter the competition... the fact that they won out of 685 entries is just incredible... And we moved to Paris in 1971, 72, when the job seemed a reality. And that was an amazing change in our life. And I have to say that mostly what we did when not working was to eat.
“I think Rose and I really wanted to run a kitchen through hope rather than fear.”
“Don't plan a dinner with a shopping list in your head. Go and see what's there and then decide what to cook.”
“I want you to put more cream on your face and less herbs on your fish.”
“I'd like to play this in memory of my beautiful boy.”
“This land is your land historically was written as an anti-anthem for the United States.”