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Castaway
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A writer who popularises social science and history through storytelling, focusing on everyday topics to reveal counterintuitive insights.
On the island
Eight records
With the money from her accident, she bought herself a mobile home so at least she could get some enjoyment out of being alone. I don't think you can top that.
This song brings up so many complicated emotions in me because she's so brutal about the kind of fatuousness of the subject of her song's life.
It's a song about his father who was abusive to the family and leaves. It sounds very upbeat, but when you start to listen closely to the lyrics, it brings you down in the way that I so love.
The first woman I fell in love with in college was a huge Brian Eno fan... this is the song that the first song she introduced to me, but she later broke my heart. And this happens to be a song about hopeless infatuation.
A song about an Englishman in America. It's basically an Englishman depressed sitting in America, like wondering how in God's name did he end up in this horrible, brutal country.
The opening line is 'Father, stop criticizing your son.' And of course what's heartbreaking is that Marvin Gaye, not that long after he records the song, is shot to death by his own father.
The Star-Spangled Banner (live at NBA All-Star Game 1983)Favourite
He did this extraordinary rendition of this very familiar song... he's high, and he is doing this bizarre thing to the song. And it's only when you hear the song out of context that you realize what a kind of nasty piece of work the American National Anthem is.
This is the ultimate man spurned by lover song. If you listen very, very closely, he's just so upset and sad, but it's so artfully done.
In conversation
Presenter asks
0:34Why do you focus your considerable talents on these rather middling subjects?
Well, because I'm middling. The things in the middle are the interesting things. You know, I always use the example of cars. I'm a huge car lover. But a Ferrari is actually, at the end of the day, not interesting. Because if I give you a million dollars, you really should make an interesting car. Not that hard to fail at the task. If I give you 10,000 pounds and ask you to make an interesting car, that's an incredibly difficult proposition. So I'm also drawn to the things that I think are the most kind of interesting and complex explorations.
Presenter asks
2:48Do you think of yourself primarily as a writer or as a thinker?
Oh, I think of myself as a storyteller. What I've tried to do in many of my books is to bring insights from social science or history and use stories as a way of exploring those ideas. But the you know, to wrap something in a story is to give it a kind of power that it wouldn't otherwise have.
Presenter asks
6:33Where does your confidence come from? Is it just your belief in your own intellectual rigor and capability?
Does it take confidence? Or I just sort of felt like I had nothing to lose. The only thing you have to lose is to be perceived as uninteresting. What an audience wants is to be taken seriously. They're willing to put up with a lot if they have the sense that you have thought about what you're doing with them in some kind of considered way. Once they get that sense from you, they will travel with you in many far and distant directions. What turns off an audience is the notion that you're giving them the same talk that you have given to you-you didn't even think about them when you were thinking about that morning what you wanted to say. As long as I communicate that notion that you are special to me, I'm giving you this talk for a reason, then you're fine.
The keepsakes
The book
A selection of historical novels
Geoffrey Trease
I would take just a random sample of his books with me. They would remind me of a very happy time in my life, because I'm obviously really lonely eventually on his desert island. And they are also just such pristine examples of storytelling.
The luxury
I don't golf. I've never golfed. I will never golf. Why? Because it's a preposterous sport that chews up enormous amounts of time. It leads to nothing but frustration. But I'm on a desert island. I can construct a little golf course and I can while away the hours, you know, teaching myself how to play.
Presenter asks
18:35What do you think the most profound piece of luck you've experienced in your career has been?
I was living in Washington D.C. and I knew no one and was a Canadian, was actually illegal, and I had a roommate who answered an ad in a newspaper and took a room in the house I was living in, who was the most supremely connected person. And his name is Jacob Weisberg. And it's because of Jacob that basically I got all my early jobs in journalism and met everyone who would prove crucial in my life. It's this incredibly random act. A 21-year-old walks into my house in 1985 and unlocks the world of American journalism. If that's not luck.
Presenter asks
21:32How do you cope with the criticism that you're somebody who does not much original thinking, you're just very good at telling us about the original thinkers?
Oh. Well, I don't think it's jealousy, first of all. The element of that that I would object to is simply that there are people who denigrate the contribution of the storyteller. Sometimes, for example, academics will think that the step that someone like me takes, which is to take an idea and refashion it in a form that is accessible, they won't understand that I've actually helped their cause. They think it's sort of a slick act of repackaging, as opposed to a way of giving an idea new life. There's a long intellectual food chain, and I think all of us on that food chain, and I'm on I'm somewhere on the food chain too, sometimes make the mistake of overvaluing our own contribution and undervaluing everyone else's.
“The things in the middle are the interesting things.”
“Music is at its finest when it explores the melancholy side of human nature.”
“To be eleven and bored is not a bad thing. To be forced to kind of construct an imaginative world for yourself.”
“The crucial thing has been not the development of self-confidence, but the dismantling of self-confidence.”
“The weapons of the spirit are more powerful than conventional weapons.”