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Art historian and director of the National Portrait Gallery, known for his expertise in Tudor portraiture and definitive work on the Elizabethan era.
On the island
Eight records
In conversation
Presenter asks
0:08As an art historian, which came first, the pictures or the history?
The history. I mean, I was uh really began being passionately interested in the history of costume, and that's how I got on to Queen Elizabeth. And I've really been interested in in history and and the history of ideas are the two things which most fascinate me.
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2:34You've been director of the National Portrait Gallery for about two and a half years. Did you set out with sweeping ambitions to reshape the whole presentation of the gallery?
Yes, I did, because I think every gallery goes through, um, as it were, changes periodically, and I wanted very much. To put that gallery on the map, because I think it's it is a a wonderful gallery both for people who live in Britain and and visitors to abroad.
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3:19Is that your idea of priorities, that first must come the glamour and the music and lights to bring in the public?
No, because I mean I think anything um to I mean if one had to make a choice I think the the last comes first because the knowledge and the scholarship. Uh from there everything else stems and you can't do the one without the other. You can't do the folder rolls without the brain the brainwork behind it.
The keepsakes
The luxury
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3:38You've been responsible for some very imaginative special exhibitions. Which have been the most successful?
The one That has thrilled me most was the last one called the Elizabethan Image at the Tape Gallery, which closed not long ago. And in a way that sort of contained everything I loved since since since, you know, I was a child. It was a whole panorama of of English painting through the children and Elizabethan Jacobean periods, done with theme rooms and music and excitement and surprise.
Presenter asks
4:26Now a lot of staff time must be taken up dealing with people who bring pictures to be examined. Do you make many valuable finds this way?
Things do come in from time to time. No, I would say that we don't make many spectacular discoveries. Most of them are made in the sale room. Um but I do think this is an important public service. I mean i abroad it's not done at all.
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4:56Which little triumphs do you look back on in the same room [the sale room] with most pleasure?
I look back less less in my own era, I thought the most exciting thing of all was sort of two directors ago, and I was at the gallery, when we bought in a minor sale room um a portrait of Milton as a young man for twenty two pounds. And it was the long-lost portrait of Milton as a young boy when Aubrey, in his brief life, says that he was so fair they called him the Lady of Christ College. We had a wonderful time cleaning it because the nineteenth century lips came off in the eighteenth century and then eventually one got down to the seventeenth century lips underneath and all the inscriptions were there as recorded in the past. It was very exciting.
“I've really been interested in in history and and the history of ideas are the two things which most fascinate me.”
“I envisage the gallery in three ways. I think it ought to give a vivid panoramic history of England in terms of a personality using caption and caricature, furniture and other allied material. It ought to be a marvellous reference collection of portraits to which people can have quick access. And it ought to be a research institute publishing wonderful booklets and books on portraiture.”
“The one That has thrilled me most was the last one called the Elizabethan Image at the Tape Gallery, which closed not long ago. And in a way that sort of contained everything I loved since since since, you know, I was a child.”
“When we bought in a minor sale room um a portrait of Milton as a young man for twenty two pounds. And it was the long-lost portrait of Milton as a young boy when Aubrey, in his brief life, says that he was so fair they called him the Lady of Christ College.”