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Tuning in…
Castaway
1 appearance
Co-founder of the supermarket chain Iceland, a businessman who built it into a major retailer with over 1,000 stores.
On the island
Eight records
Violin Concerto No. 1 in G minor, Op. 26: II. Adagio
Itzhak Perlman, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
this magical piece came on the radio which totally changed my mind
my dad would sing and my mum would play the piano and I can remember him singing a song called Goodbye by Joseph Locke
it was a ballad and I just thought it was absolutely beautiful... I got married again in August last year, and that was perfect for that dreaded first dance
nights out in Scarborough at the local dance hall and one of the songs popular at the time was Silence is Golden
there was a restaurant in Marbella... some guy with an accordion... I'd always ask him to play Memory... we also would go to London quite a bit and see all the Lloyd Webby shows. And I just thought that was an amazing song
we were really lucky in able to get tickets for one of the very first performances of Phantom of the Opera with Michael Crawford and Sarah Brightman... I still listen to it. I still think it's one of the most magical
Luciano Pavarotti, Mirella Freni, Berlin Philharmonic, Herbert von Karajan
Puccini is opera for beginners... the best of Puccini is La Bohème... an amazing and romantic piece
Quando m'en vo' (Musetta's Waltz)Favourite
she sang an opera aria beautifully... I will take that with me
In conversation
Presenter asks
1:54Why do you think Iceland is still around more than fifty years after you created it?
But we understand the business. You know, most supermarkets, you can't tell me who the boss is 'cause they change every three or four years. But because I've been there fifty odd years, I do understand the business. And I think we're very good at motivating people, motivating our staff. So fifty two years later, we've still got burning enthusiasm.
Presenter asks
6:37What actually happened to your father when he had the accident at the pit?
What actually happened? He had an accident at the pit. A coal cutter crushed his foot, so he couldn't work at the pit anymore. But um we always had what you call a small holding, chickens and pigs and a few animals. And How big was it? It was only eight and a half acres. But Dad then went full time on the farm and was a pioneer, I hate to say it now, in battery hens. He built a huge shed with hundreds of battery hens, and we went into egg production.
Presenter asks
13:13What do you think they missed in you when Littlewoods, Marks and Spencer, Lewis's and Leeds all turned you down?
You had to have an arithmetic test and I couldn't. And Marks and Spencer's, the guy was really good. He invited me in for an interview at the local store. He spent an hour talking to me about life, but said, you know, you need a university degree. I then went to Woolworths, which is bottom of the list. And the reason I went there was they took anybody. It didn't matter. Because their training programme, well, there wasn't one, but basically, you started at the bottom sweeping the floor and ended up as being chairman. The dropout rate was phenomenal. And basically, it was if you could stick the course, you made it. So I started sweeping the floor in the Huddersfield store. And unfortunately, I was doing that two years later because the guy who took me on had moved on and they didn't know that I was a trainee manager, thought I was a floor sweeper. Anyway, eventually I got moved to Leeds and started my career properly. And you know, it was really hard. It was six days a week, and you'd have to be in at eight in the morning or seven if you were letting in the breadman and you couldn't go home till maybe eight or nine o'clock at night. But there was also a great camaraderie because moving around the country to different stores, moving into flats and bed sits with your mates from Woolies, you know, it was quite an adventure.
The keepsakes
The book
Daniel Defoe
I've actually never read it, but I think I should, and I think it it would be good inspiration on how to cope.
The luxury
I like cooking and I would enjoy cooking on the island, fish, shellfish, whatever, so I'll need a heavy cast iron cooking pot.
Presenter asks
21:47What happened in 2001 when you were forced to step down after selling shares prior to a profit warning?
I'd done 30 years running the business now I was tired and I wanted to retire and that coincided with us buying Booker the cash and carry chain. That is a long story don't have time to go into it but it was a great deal and it's since proved to be. So anyway that got me a new chief executive Stuart Rose Lord Rose as he is now but we had different views. I thought he was coming to run the business and I was going to retire. He saw it a little bit differently. He disappeared and I was left holding the baby and I thought, oh no I can't, you know. Anyway I found a new boss and he joined the business and it all went wrong. Share price collapsed and I was forced out. So I was fired for the second time in my life. So instead of retiring I was so angry that I decided to start a new rival frozen food business called Cool Trader which I did. I ran that for four years and then the new guy had made such a mess of Iceland and I was invited back to save it and sold Cool Trader to Iceland.
Presenter asks
25:57How did you cope with your wife's illness [Alzheimer's]?
Do you know it's really difficult because symptoms start unnoticed, maybe many years before diagnosis? Just little things, irritation, I told you that, weren't you listening? You know, then you realize maybe there's a an issue. When she was diagnosed, uh she was obviously devastated, but she s wasn't the sort of person who would um Google it and see what the prognosis was. So
Presenter asks
33:51What book will you take to the island?
Well, it would have to be Robinson Crusoe.
“this magical piece came on the radio which totally changed my mind”
“I was a teenage impresario.”
“Well, it was a bit scary as well because when Woolis found out, you know, we were called down to head office. I knew it wasn't for us to get promoted, so we got fired. And then, my God, you know, what have we done? We're on our own. So, we better open the second shop quickly”
“It was completely trashed. So for a while nobody could look me in the eye because there's no smoke without fire. Well later it was proved that there was no smoke and there was no fire.”
“I don't know how people manage. I'm in a very fortunate position in that I could keep her at home, I had carers and I could keep her at home right until the very end. But if people say, you know, you lost your wife two years ago, I didn't. I lost her ten years ago.”
“Life moves on. And it has to, and I feel very lucky to have been given a second chance at life and love.”