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Castaway
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Model whose waif-like look upended the 1990s supermodel era and who has endured as a fashion and cultural icon for over 30 years.
On the island
Eight records
Soul II Soul and Sunday Service Choir
This is a song that I've had specially mixed for today. I heard Kanye's Sunday service version of Back to Life and I was blown away. So this is Kanye West's Sunday service choir. So it's his gospel choir. Yeah, his gospel choir mixed with Jazzy Bee, Soul to Soul Original. ... Yeah, this is when I was 14, my friend had a Escort Mark I with roll bars and you know and he had speakers in the back of the car. Oh pretty cool. Yeah and we would blast it down Coyden High Street and think we were the coolest people. Like it was all about blasting it as loud as we could.
A White Shade of Pale by King Curtis. My mum and dad got married in 1972. They walked down the aisle to White Shade of Pale on the organ and it's also the soundtrack to my favourite movie With Nail and I, which I've watched probably more than 100 times, I don't know. But it just is the most beautiful song.
I started working with a photographer called David Sims when I was 15 and he introduced me to Neil Young and I used to think, oh god, this whiny old man. And then as I got older, I was with Johnny Depp and we went to Youngsville. I met Neil Young. I fell in love with the music and David Sims' son died tragically, really at a young age. He's the same age as my daughter. They were going to go into school together and they'd known each other since they were born and he sang it at his funeral and it reminds me of Kip and how amazing he was as a human and how I was so lucky to spend his 18th birthday with him for a week before he got sick again. So it's a really emotional song for me and brings up a lot of feelings.
Life on Mars by David Bowe. I was living in New York. I just got to New York. My boyfriend at the time, Mario Sorrenti, he was from New York and luckily I got to live with his family. His mother, Francesca, took care of me. She was a photographer. She had a studio on Sixth Avenue with a dark room. And so when Mario was printing pictures, I would listen to Life on Mars and dance around the studio and think that in my fantasy that that song was about me, the girl with the mousy brown hair whose mummy is yelling no and her daddy has told her to go. That was like the soundtrack to my childhood at the time.
O Sweet Nothing by Lou Reed in The Velvet Underground. I love the Velvet Underground. Them hanging out at the, you know, CBGB's with Iggy Pop. That picture of Iggy and Lou and David is I've had in a frame for a long time since I was a kid. And O Sweet Nothing has got my best friends naming it. Jimmy B, Jimmy Brown. And I played it every day during the pandemic for some reason. It uplifted me.
I was with Marie Sorrenti, we were in New York, we had a quite volatile relationship, and we were going down the street and r he was we were having an argument, and we walked into this bar and they were playing Sympathy for the Devil, and I walked in and my mood Changed. And I was like, oh my God. Music can change the way I feel. And I'm very good friends with Marlon Richards, who's Keith's son. I'm godmother to his daughter Ella. And I was best friends with Anita Pallenberg and Marianne Faithful. So I've got very like my thread with the Rolling Stones is quite multi-layered. This song always brings me joy.
My Sweet LordFavourite
Oh, My Sweet Lord by George Harrison. I was shopping with Anita Pallenberg and Marianne Fayford, and we were buying last minute Christmas presents, and I went, Oh my God, is that George Harrison? And he came out of the shop and said, Is it you? and I said, What? And he went, When I'm not watching Formula One, I watch Fashion T V. a UK moss and I went Yeah, I am. Are you George Harrison? And he went, Yeah. And I was like, Oh my god. And he said, Come in, come in. I want to buy you a Christmas present. And he wanted, he tried to buy me this. Well, he, I wish I'd let him buy it for me, but I just couldn't let him because it was so disgusting, this jumper. But it would have been like my jumper from George Harrison. A Christmas jumper. I know, but it was cable knit. Cable knit batwing pink sweater. And I was like, you please, I can't let you buy that for me. But I loved him so much and my sweet lord was released the week he died and I couldn't stop crying. I cried, I was sobbing. I thought it's got to be what's wrong with me. I mean it's upsetting, but I mean I could not stop crying and I found out I was pregnant with Lila. So that's my song with her and for George.
A MADAM GEORGE by VAMORES. It reminds me of every happy moment. Holidays in Tuscany, Cypress Avenues, summer days driving my car through country lanes and the sun shining.
In conversation
Presenter asks
0:45How have you managed to stay ahead of the game, looking back?
I think it's just instinct. It's not a plan. I just go with what I feel.
Presenter asks
2:18What does a dream shoot look like for you?
The dream team, the dream hair and makeup, photographer, stylist, set design. It's kind of like a puzzle that gets put together with pieces of everybody. And then that puzzle comes to life on set. When I step on set, I always feel like it's my first shoot. And I always find myself on set in front of the camera thinking, what am I going to do? I've forgotten. I don't really know what I'm doing. And then as soon as the camera starts clicking, I find myself in a character and once the first picture's done that's when I feel I know who I am in that story in that puzzle because I'm actually really shy in front of the camera I don't like having my picture taken when it's not at work really I don't like having selfies or snapshots I find it difficult to be myself in front of the camera I find it much easier to be somebody else.
Presenter asks
5:10Tell me about your early years in Croydon. Were you happy growing up there?
My dad worked for Pan American, so we used to go to America every summer. We go went to LA and drove from France to San Francisco. We went to Hawaii. So we travelled a lot when I was a kid. So I knew that there was a big world out there. And I loved. I remember coming home from a holiday once and it was raining and grey and we got in my dad's beetle and it was cold and and I remember thinking I like American cars. I like the way they smell those rental cars in America. I like the way they had those big seats at the front that you could sit across. So I already had like motivation to get out of Croydon.
The keepsakes
The book
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I read it to my goddaughter and to my daughter, and I just think it's the most beautiful book.
Presenter asks
9:45Your parents split when you were thirteen. How did you deal with the disruption of that?
I started smoking spliff. and hanging out with a lot people a lot older than me, a lot of older boys that kind of took me under their wing and protected me. They would take me to London on the train. I would get changed from my school uniform into clothes and go to Fred's. ... I didn't even like the taste of alcohol. I drink Long Island iced teas'cause it didn't taste of alcohol, but then of course it's quite a strong drink. ... I was heartbroken.
Presenter asks
20:41What were your thoughts about the press reaction to the 'heroin chic' controversy and what they were saying about you?
I think. I was a scapegoat for a lot of People's problems. I was never anorexic. I never have been. I had never taken heroin. I was thin because I didn't get fed at shoots or in shows and I'd always been thin. And it was a fashion shoot. It was shot at my flat. And, you know, that's how I could afford to live at the time. And I think it was a shock because I wasn't voluptuous and I wasn't. I was just a normal girl. I wasn't a glamours and model, and I think that shocked them.
Presenter asks
25:22What made you come out on behalf of John Galliano and Johnny Depp, when those gestures could have backfired?
I believe in the truth and I believe in fairness and justice. I know that John Galliano is not a bad person. He had an alcohol problem and people turn. People aren't themselves when they drink. and they say things that they would never say if they were sober. I know the truth about Donnie. I know he never kicked me down the stairs. I had to say that truth.
“I'm actually really shy in front of the camera I don't like having my picture taken when it's not at work really I don't like having selfies or snapshots I find it difficult to be myself in front of the camera I find it much easier to be somebody else.”
“I was a scapegoat for a lot of People's problems. I was never anorexic. I never have been. I had never taken heroin. I was thin because I didn't get fed at shoots or in shows and I'd always been thin.”
“I believe in the truth and I believe in fairness and justice. I know that John Galliano is not a bad person. He had an alcohol problem and people turn. People aren't themselves when they drink. and they say things that they would never say if they were sober. I know the truth about Donnie. I know he never kicked me down the stairs. I had to say that truth.”
“I'm still probably the only living person with a Lucy Freud on my thighs. I mean, a living work of art. It's not bad.”
“It's boring to me now. I love a dance, but I'm not really into being out of control anymore. Well, I'm definitely not into being out of control. I like to get to bed. I like to get up early and do my meditation before anyone's up. And I like to be In control.”