Tuning in…
Tuning in…
Castaway
2 appearances
Writer best known for her banned and burned novel 'The Country Girls', described as a poet of heartbreak.
On the island
Eight records
Well, this is one of my f truly favourite Irish songs, as is the voice of the girl who sings it from the Johnsons.
Nabucco: Va, pensiero (Chorus of the Hebrew Slaves)
Ambrosian Singers and the London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Claudio Abbado
Nabucco, and uh it's the chorus of the slaves, and uh this particular one is conducted by Claudio Bardo.
Oh, my third choice is olotangi and it's African drums and it's called the drums of passion.
Requiem in D minor, K. 626: Sanctus
It's from Mozart's Requiem. I love everything of Mozart, so I put penny tossed coins in the air and came with the Requiem, and uh it's the Sanctus.
La sonnambula: Ah! non credea mirarti
Ah my favorite, favorite voice in the world is that of Maria Callas, and it's from Bellini's La Sanambola.
Well, it's this song in particular which I love,'cause it um well, it says a lot, and it is Are You Lonesome Tonight?
Canon in DFavourite
Is a Pacabelles canon in D.
The Monks of the Benedictine Monastery of Santo Domingo de Silos
It started on a beautiful frosted morning in a monastery in County Tipperary, in Ireland, and I heard for the first time pouring out of the chapel this extraordinary Latin chanting. And it was also, as music always is, connected with a very precise and important moment in my life, and it was this. My father would drink, and then would give up drink, and he would go to this monastery to the monks, and then my mother and I would go to collect him. And therefore it was a moment of hope.
Sì, mi chiamano Mimì (from La Bohème)
I heard, again in a shop, I heard this voice of a woman, and it was the voice of Maria Callas. So a long winded way of saying my second choice is Mimi's Aria from La Bohem.
I can listen to Bach when I'm writing, not to anybody else, no other piece of piece of music. And then of course you add to that the great Glen Gould.
The Foggy DewFavourite
The Chieftains featuring Sinéad O'Connor
History was very much part of my schooling, and naturally the history of the invasion of Ireland, of the occupation. And down the years there were always rebellions, and they failed. And then we come Easter morning, nineteen sixteen, a handful of men, not very well equipped. A revolution that failed? And yet didn't fail, because it broke the chain, the nine hundred year yoke of English sovereignty. So my song, sung by my friend Sinead O'Connor, is the most rousing and haunting and I think a terrific song The Foggy Jew.
The Pogues featuring Kirsty MacColl
My next record is complete you'll be delighted to hear antidote or an antithesis to the heroics of the foggy dew. And it's a little parable of down and outs of bums in New York City, and it's called a fairy tale of New York.
Throughout that whole continent. African music that against all the odds is so life affirming and my next choice. There are many, but today I will say Oletange's Drums of Passion.
Munich Philharmonic Orchestra and Bavarian Radio Chorus
I could not imagine not being able to listen to some part of Mozart's Requiem. I can understand it, some of it, and yet It remains Like the universe, a total mystery.
There was Edith Piaff, frail, defiant, no longer young. singing, as it were, her own epitaph. and the audience rising up to sing it with her, to affirm it for her.
In conversation
Presenter asks
4:45What kind of an upbringing was it? Was it a happy childhood?
No, no, I don't think so. … It was certainly a childhood in which I fastened on to both fantasy and things of the imagination. And I think we always do that. People always do that when there is darkness or gloom or unhappiness. … So that it wasn't there wasn't much laughter. Or there wasn't um a great harmony. What there was, though, was, I can now see, the material and the whetstone to become a writer.
Presenter asks
8:22What part did religion play in the creative impulse?
A very strong part, actually, more and more. Religion, particularly the Catholic religion, which is the only one I have living experience of, suffuses you and drenches you in all its imagery and in its story. … Um as a young girl I was extremely devout and was forever bobbing into the chapel and geneflecting and saying the stations of the cross and praying. … And I also have to say that a great and indeed, um on alterable fears were denned into me by uh the Catholic Church, by the sermons, by the nuns. … So that that dreaded shackle which we all try to stave off but can't the dreaded shackle of guilt uh is as, I think, inherent in me as my bloodstream.
Presenter asks
12:10You once said that life was catastrophic. What do you mean?
I think what I mean is that I have in me a rather continuous sort of fear of catastrophe. I I think I'm a very anxious person. … And catastrophe is a very strong word, I know, but it's always being on the alert for some outburst or some danger, which makes me physically a rather frightened person. And it's a contradiction. But morally I don't feel afraid of people, but physically I do.
The keepsakes
Presenter asks
15:50Why did you work in a pharmacy when you left home?
Oh yes, I always say that it was there I learned how to cook. And it's true for a very simple reason. That the medicines, a lot of the medicines, there were some patent medicines, but a lot of the medicines were still made up by hand. So I learned how to make emulsions, and I learned how to make suppositories, and I learned all those things which teaches one how to make a good source and so on.
Presenter asks
26:46Does getting fame and accolades change the perspective of the novelist?
Well, I I I'm being genuine when I say this to you. I feel very hard worked and sometimes over oppressed with cares and calls, and I hate the telephone. But I don't feel a star. I feel, thank God, that I've managed to continue the talent that was given me and to be very serious and obsessive about it. But for the most part I lead a fairly hidden and secluded life. … Uh the bulk of my life is lived alone. Trying to write or writing … and perhaps, perhaps, I I I I would like to make a bit more sure, who wouldn't, but perhaps that having to, you know, lead ordinary, if you like, a housewifely life has um kept me my feet are on the ground
Presenter asks
28:52Have you found the life of a writer totally satisfying?
Um no, no, I haven't. I uh often wished that I had um a job that brought me into contact with people. … So I am glad that I am a writer and wouldn't in any other incarnation want it altered. But to counteract it, I would love um a a much more physical life uh and and contact.
Presenter asks
4:41Does religion still play an important part in your life? Do you still go to Mass?
Yes, I go to Mass. I light candles in the two churches near me. My belief, however, is not as clear-cut as maybe the Pope or clergy would wish. So I have this inner and rather private need, but much about the Catholic Church. And their, if you like, their tyranny of the Catholic Church religion, the stranglehold which I grew up with. I do not like. But spirituality and religion are two different things, because one is God and the other is politics.
Presenter asks
5:17Were books ever present [in your childhood]?
No, books were not present at all. There was prayer books and there was a Mrs. Beaton's cookery book, much stained, you know, egg yolk and all that. And then my father was a man for the horses. There was bloodstock manuals. But there was one copy of Rebecca that had circulated into Scariff and Tombgrany. And it was loaned. And it was loaned by the page, not consecutive. So you might get page two hundred and four and then get page one.
Presenter asks
9:21Did living in that way as a little girl leave you with a sort of fear generally of men and a fear of the power that men have?
I think I have a fear of women and men, to tell you the truth. Yes, you live on the edge. But living on the edge doesn't dispose one very easily for ongoing life. As for going out into the world, my inner experience of men was all got from the odd bit of reading that I picked up here and there along the way. You know, Heathcliff, Mr Rochester, all that. So they were demon men that they were savable. So I went into the world With really the most daft kind of inner mythology. To this day, I regret the fact I don't think I know or have ever learned the game of men and women. It's like a dance that I cannot learn.
Presenter asks
13:18What mark did [being educated at a convent] make on you at the time?
Well, I wanted to be a nun, of course. I fell in love with nuns. It was a very stern place. There was a high stone wall around it. Gates were locked. So, what the convent did was to um give me a a a bit of a hotchpotch education.
Presenter asks
14:49Is it true that after your mother died you found a copy of The Country Girls buried in a field near your house?
Yes, she thought The Country Girls was disgraceful, and she had erased as a character Baba in The Country Girls who has the oddswear word every other minute, actually. My mother had erased them with good, deep. Black ink.
Presenter asks
25:31Is it fair to say that your marriage then simply collapsed under the weight of your success?
Yes. I mean, when it's encapsulated like that, it seems very um as if that's not the whole story, which of course it's not. I think that that was very central to it. … But secondly, and this I take the responsibility and some of the blame for. Between the age of nineteen or twenty and twenty-nine or thirty. I was a di a very different person, and it was very easy to bring up my children and write. A husband is harder to manage than children …
Presenter asks
30:44In the end, do you think that you have had to choose between writing and love?
I do. The choice has to be made because both. are very hard taskmasters. But also I if I were to fall in love again before I die. Alice is boastful, but why not be a little boastful? I would Hope for. An extraordinary man. who was a great poet as well as a great uh journeyman on the earth.
“I always think let's have a little access to magic and to the unknown, because life is primarily quite boring.”
“the dreaded shackle of guilt uh is as, I think, inherent in me as my bloodstream.”
“The real litmus test is the test of truth. And people might say, Well, what do you mean by truth? And I think I know I can pick up any book or poem or play and and know whether it has that in our hum of life, or whether it's just a flash in the pan.”
“what fiction is, is fantasized and imaginatized autobiography, but it ain't the same thing.”
“A writing is generated or caused by some unknown and indeed unnameable conflict or disturbance within one.”
“Although I have lived in England, I don't feel that I know the landscape, either the geographic landscape, or the habits and psyche and cunnings and treacheries, etcetera. of the people. the way I know the Irish. And it's not that I don't love my country I do. But I want to write things that are, perhaps, the turning over of the soil to find some of those stories and secrets that lie underneath the soil.”
“I feel I am separated from life by many of my own fears and my own handicaps and my own isolatedness and I feel that maybe each book has made me that little bit more able to say, Yes, I am living life, but I will never Say fully. I know how to live life I only know how to write.”
“If I did not love them so much. I would not fight so hard. against all this opposition.”