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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Michael Parkinson
Pianist and child prodigy who won joint silver medal at International Tchaikovsky Competition, becoming a superstar in Russia.
Eight records
Piano Concerto No. 5 in E‑flat major, Op. 73 'Emperor'
Wilhelm Backhaus, Vienna Philharmonic, Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt
the passage at the beginning of my version of the music at the age of, I think, four or five… I would like to hear that passage
I just mentioned Russ Conway, and this is one of the tunes I remember loving hearing him play
Prize Song from Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
René Kollo, Vienna Philharmonic, Sir Georg Solti
this doesn't have any particular significance to my life story, it's just a wonderful piece of music, and it's the prize song from Wagner's opera Die Meistersinger
Peter Donohoe, London Sinfonietta, Simon Rattle
because of my interest in jazz I felt it was a good idea to include something that represented the best of American jazz, and it just so happens that it's something I've also recorded, and it's the Rhapsody in Blue
Piano Concerto No. 3 in D minor, Op. 30
Peter Donohoe, USSR TV and Radio Symphony Orchestra, Vladimir Fedoseyev
the actual performance which at least contributed to winning the competition in Moscow, which was of the third piano concerto of Rachmaninoff… it represents, more than any other piece, one's achievement if one has one
Peter Donohoe, City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra, Simon Rattle
it formed part of my introduction to the music of the twentieth century when I was quite young… I was absolutely blown over by the piece
Symphony No. 3 in F major, Op. 90 – II. Andante
Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Bruno Walter
I just had to have a piece by Brahms because I think that of all the composers he's one of the most indispensable
String Quintet in C major, D. 956Favourite
it is one of the greatest pieces of chamber music ever written
The keepsakes
The book
Complete scripts of Billy Connolly
Billy Connolly (scripts compiled)
I need something to make me laugh, and so I would rather like to go for the complete um scripts of Billy Connolly.
The luxury
if I could sleep really well, I think that uh any problems that being on a desert island would present um me with, I I think I could cope with it.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Does the word prodigy make you squirm, or do you confess that's exactly what you were?
Well, I would love to know what the word prodigy means, but certainly I think that the majority of really successful musicians were able at a very early age to play some of the things that we work towards now … The work that I played at the age of twelve in public, which was the Beethoven Third Concerto, I now find it a very difficult piece at the age of thirty five, whereas at that time it seemed really quite easy … I think if one tries to analyse that it's something to do with, first of all, a musical ear and the other thing is of course physical coordination … and the love of the music.
Presenter asks
So even at the age of four you were moved by that kind of music. Was it always, though, the piano that touched something in you?
Yes, I think it was [the piano that touched something in me]. I certainly wanted to play the piano that was in the corner of the room … I remember picking out music from the radio … signature tunes from programmes on the radio.
The recording
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Speaker 2
Hello, I'm Kirsty Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs archive. For rights reasons, we've had to shorten the music.
Speaker 2
The programme was originally broadcast in nineteen eighty eight, and the presenter was Sue Lawley.
Presenter
My castaway this week is a pianist. He was born thirty-five years ago in Manchester, and he was a prodigy. By the age of twelve, he was performing Beethoven's third piano concerto. His career took off internationally six years ago, when he won the joint silver medal in the International Tschaikovsky competition in Moscow. That made him a superstar in Russia. Today, he performs on all the world's major concert platforms. He's one of our most gifted and intelligent musicians. He is Peter Donahoe.
Presenter
Peter, does the word prodigy make you squirm, or do you confess that's exactly what you were?
Peter Donohoe
Well, I would love to know what the word prodigy means, but certainly I think that uh the majority of really successful musicians were able at a very early age to play some of the things that we work towards now.
Peter Donohoe
The work that I played at the age of twelve in public, which was the Beethoven Third Concerto, I now find it a very difficult piece at the age of thirty five, whereas at that time it seemed really quite easy. In other words, I hadn't learned learned the difficulties.
Presenter
But but would you say that you were born to play the piano, that it was something in you that you were born with?
Peter Donohoe
Yes, yes I would.
Peter Donohoe
I think if one tries to analyse that it's something to do with, first of all, a a musical ear and the other thing is of course physical coordination.
Peter Donohoe
And I must say I'm very lucky with that. And and the love of the music.
Peter Donohoe
We mustn't forget about. I mean, uh but I I think a lot of people who who only listen to music share that love.
Peter Donohoe
Um that I have for it.
Peter Donohoe
Um so there are there are many more of us than uh than actually can act that can can perform the music.
Presenter
So I can imagine that that choosing eight records from your great love of music has been entirely impossible.
Peter Donohoe
Totally, yes. Yes.
Presenter
So how have you done it?
Peter Donohoe
Well, I tried to um I tried to stick to pieces that were significant from a practical point of view in my life. And of course that whittled it down straight away to a very small number, because a lot of the music that I love is just purely that. Um I desire the ability to perform something and so I go out and learn it now. But when I was very small there were certain pieces that stick out in my memory as creating my desire to do this.
Presenter
What's the first one, then?
Peter Donohoe
Well, I remember um
Peter Donohoe
To be quite honest, I don't know what age I was, but I was terribly young. Um, for some reason my father picked up.
Peter Donohoe
Uh a wound-up gramophone.
Peter Donohoe
We had no music in the house except for the piano which my mother used to play.
Peter Donohoe
and this gramophone appeared, and in order to find something to play on it, he went to a market in South Manchester, which quite close to where we lived, and picked up the Emperor Concerto.
Peter Donohoe
And the first record was missing from this set and I spent hours and hours trying to trying to piece together the complete work. It it didn't uh actually um occur to me at all to look at the the serial numbers on the records, or or even when it said side eight or whatever it was. Uh I just using my ears tried to work out how the piece went. And I I came to love it so much that I was really rather disappointed when I discovered there was another quarter of an hour of the piece.
Peter Donohoe
That was actually the beginning of the work.
Peter Donohoe
Um and uh of course it's a piece I play a lot now, but I still feel very much more comfortable starting with the passage at the beginning of my version of the music at the age of, I think, four or five, something like that.
Peter Donohoe
And uh the end of the first movement of this piece was the end of the piece as far as I was concerned, so I would like to hear that passage.
Presenter
Beethoven's Emperor Concerto played by Wilhelm Backhaus with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Hans Schmidt Isserstedt.
Presenter
Peter, so even at the age of four you were moved by that kind of music. Was it always, though, the piano that touched something in you?
Peter Donohoe
Yes, I think it was. I certainly wanted to play the piano that was in the corner of the room, and I perhaps didn't really significantly realise that there were other instruments to be played. But I do remember although I didn't differentiate between the sounds at that stage, I don't think but I I remember picking out music from the radio.
Presenter
Uh
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Yeah.
Peter Donohoe
On that piano, by which I mean signature tunes from programmes on the radio.
Presenter
So it wasn't always classical music that moved you.
Peter Donohoe
No, not at all. Hardly ever at that stage.
Presenter
What sort?
Peter Donohoe
It was um it was mainly uh theme tunes to things like Home This Afternoon I think one of them was called and that kind of thing and occasionally a hymn from a morning service or something.
Presenter
But there was no professional musicianship in the history of your family at all, but your mum plays.
Peter Donohoe
Not that I'm aware of since the seventeenth century, no. Only if you've gone back that far.
Presenter
Only if you've come back that fast.
Presenter
Oh, really? Well, there you are, you see it without.
Peter Donohoe
Yes, but my mother did play the piano, but not professionally, and that was why we had the instrument in in the room there.
Presenter
And she sent you for piano lessons. Where did she send you?
Peter Donohoe
A lot later, yes. In the first place, it became apparent to both my parents that I had a particular pull towards this instrument, and because my mother could play the piano, she taught me how to do it, and I had one of these strange childish obsessions. I I developed a hero on my grandparents' television in the form of Russ Conway.
Peter Donohoe
And I understood I may have understood it wrongly, but I understood at that time that he didn't read music.
Peter Donohoe
And I decided, as part of my hero worship, that I would never learn to read music at that stage. And so my mother had to teach me to play the piano without ever
Peter Donohoe
learning to read it, to read the actual notes. And I actually believe rather strongly that that's a very significant part of my development because I think I learned to use my ears.
Peter Donohoe
And of course it's a very important time of one's life in the development of any ability.
Peter Donohoe
And uh I now have a very good memory and and uh a very quick learning technique and I think it was it was begun at that time.
Peter Donohoe
It was three years later that I actually was persuaded that it would be a good idea if I learned to read music, and I agreed to do so only if I could leave the Wolf Cubs.
Presenter
Let's have your second record then.
Peter Donohoe
Well, I just mentioned Russ Conway, and this is one of the tunes I remember loving hearing him play. Exciting.
Presenter
Russ Conway with side saddle. So you were packed off for music lessons. I mean, this poor music teacher, can he have been aware that he was in receipt of of world class material?
Peter Donohoe
Well, certainly none of the rest of us were aware of it.
Peter Donohoe
I I never thought in in those terms myself. I just wanted to play. I wasn't thinking of any kind of career at that time, and I'm not really sure that my parents were either. They just wanted me to do what I wanted to do. Has it been
Presenter
Has it been very difficult for your family and friends to accept your your great success?
Peter Donohoe
I don't think they've had difficulty accepting it, but they've perhaps had difficulty understanding the nature of it. Because of course, um as with all performing arts
Peter Donohoe
The tendency is to give the public a certain amount of disinformation about what the lifestyle really is.
Peter Donohoe
And I I suppose I was also conned into thinking that it was all glamour and and so on. I think that's the the hard bit to accept for for anyone.
Presenter
Why, isn't it glamorous?
Peter Donohoe
Most of it is.
Presenter
Most of it is. I mean, walking onto that concert platform in your dinner jacket and all those ovations and moving people in the way that you describe, it's very camera.
Peter Donohoe
concert platform in your dinner jacket.
Peter Donohoe
Yeah.
Peter Donohoe
Yes, that's right. But the means to that end is a lot of very, very hard work, a lot of travelling, a lot of jet lag.
Peter Donohoe
And that, of course, is not glamorous. But the the love of the music is actually more important than the ovations, ultimately, I believe.
Speaker 2
But look
Peter Donohoe
But that's not to say I don't like the evasion.
Peter Donohoe
But uh I did have in my repertoire, before I learned to read music.
Peter Donohoe
I had a Mozart sonata, and I really think that that bemused my first piano teacher somewhat.
Peter Donohoe
partly because some one knowing a Mozart and or having not learned to read the music in the first place was something completely new to him, but also, I think, because I'd learned it so badly.
Peter Donohoe
I didn't have any of the refinements whatsoever and I I added bits of my own. I was constantly twiddling around with the melody and
Presenter
How did your school cope with you? I mean, if there was this great emphasis on this talent of yours?
Peter Donohoe
At my primary school I was very lucky. I had a a number of very friendly members of the staff who encouraged me to to do as much as I possibly could playing, uh including in assemblies and things like that. And then later on when I went to the the second school, it was actually a a public school with um a history of a very good music department.
Peter Donohoe
to which I had been guided by the various teachers in my other school.
Peter Donohoe
And it was Cheatham's. At that time it was called Cheatham's Hospital School, very old, established, a central Manchester School. And later on, I think in nineteen sixty nine, it became a specialist music school.
Presenter
So you were very lucky, really, to be in striking distance of exactly the right school to cope with you.
Peter Donohoe
Exactly.
Peter Donohoe
Absolutely. Yes, a remarkable piece of luck because of course I as far as I know, certainly at that time there were only two similar schools in this country.
Peter Donohoe
And so uh it was only four miles away and it was fantastic to be able to do that.
Presenter
Let's have your third record.
Peter Donohoe
Well this doesn't have any particular significance to my life story, it's just a wonderful piece of music, and it's the prize song from Wagner's opera Die Meistersinger.
Speaker 4
I'm the one that held me on me.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 4
The lady's as a midlife of Mosa of Gedi. So hate the men.
Speaker 4
And for the star resting.
Speaker 4
Uh
Presenter
The prize song from Wagner's The Master Singers rene collo in the recording conducted by Sir George Schulte with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra and Opera Chorus.
Presenter
Well, Peter, you you went on from school to uh music college and at the same time you were studying all sorts of different instruments, not just the piano.
Peter Donohoe
Yes, at school uh I'd I'd started to study the violin. I was an absolutely hopeless violinist. But um because as for the usual reasons the school orchestra was short of violas, I transferred to that to the viola and became reasonably proficient in that. Played quite a lot of orchestral music later. Um but I I did a deal with the school that um they could have their viola back if I could study percussion.
Presenter
Percussion
Peter Donohoe
Percussion, yes. I I was very f fascinated by the louder end of the musical spectrum, if that's the right phrase. Um and uh I wanted to play all the big percussion instruments. It's just one part of one's immaturity I suppose.
Presenter
You were a drum kit chap, weren't you?
Peter Donohoe
Well later on I was, yes. And I I really loved it. I went off to university for one year.
Peter Donohoe
before going to the Royal Northern College in Manchester.
Peter Donohoe
I was remained in the North at that time, which I think is also quite important to the way my career developed. And whilst at university I became very interested in the the contemporary rock scene, which at that time was very anti-establishment of course, which of course was exactly why I wanted to get involved in it. But some of the musicians involved at that time I found very admirable from a technical point of view as well, and I still do, looking back at it.
Presenter
This was the early seventies.
Presenter
So you I mean it could have been Peter Donahoe rock star, could it?
Peter Donohoe
Oh yeah, see I was thinking on on those lines at one stage.
Presenter
You were also into jazz at one point.
Peter Donohoe
Uh yes, I was I was very interested in in jazz later because I went to college in Manchester to study piano and percussion equally.
Peter Donohoe
and found that the percussion playing was taking over because there was a lot of work outside the college available, and I loved being involved in orchestras. And my percussion teacher, Gilbert Webster,
Peter Donohoe
was um at one time the principal uh percussion of the BBC Symphony Orchestra, but he was also a very experienced jazzer. And he did he picked on me as someone, partly because I was a pianist I suppose, someone that really should develop more improvisatory techniques. And we we really did get very heavily involved in traditional jazz.
Peter Donohoe
And he had me playing the jazz kit and the vibraphone really quite well, I think. I actually feel very strongly that uh if you play and love music generally as much as you can, although inevitably you're you're going to be better at certain things than others, we we can't avoid that, but I think your experience with all the different styles
Peter Donohoe
is a great asset.
Presenter
Another record.
Peter Donohoe
Well, because of my um interest in jars.
Peter Donohoe
I felt it was a good idea to include um something that represented the best of American jazz, and it just so happens that it's something I've also recorded, and it's the Rhapsody in Blue.
Presenter
Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, played by our Castaway, Peter Donohoe, with the London Sinfonetta, conducted by Simon Rattle.
Presenter
Well, now, Peter, tell me about nineteen eighty two, the Moscow International Tschaikovsky Piano Competition. You were twenty nine years old, and suddenly they were chanting your name on the streets of Moscow. How did it happen?
Peter Donohoe
Well, I I only ever did four co uh competitions in my life.
Peter Donohoe
And I was always very lucky. I became a finalist in all of them. But I actually um jointly won this one in in Moscow with a Russian.
Peter Donohoe
And
Peter Donohoe
It was like a dream c uh come true, because I knew I I tried to be as realistic as possible about it, but I knew that that
Peter Donohoe
Would be the the door opening to a career, assuming that I could.
Peter Donohoe
I could actually deliver the guts. And of course that's the difficult bit, because immediately after a competition there there is so much hype, so many interviews and so so so many things preventing you practising and sleeping enough.
Peter Donohoe
That you are under extreme pressure for at least six months. I came out of it reasonably well, I'm very pleased to say. And I think that.
Presenter
Reasonably, yeah. I mean, I gather the ovation went on for a quarter of an hour.
Peter Donohoe
Well, yes, actually I have to correct you there, that the evas went on for a quarter of an hour between two of the pieces.
Speaker 4
Oh.
Peter Donohoe
Um it was actually more like two hours later on. It it's difficult to remember the precise details, but Um after the the final uh that I gave uh the jury went away to consider the verdict because I was actually the the last person to play in the finals. And that was rather an interesting uh little story actually because I was supposed to be the third out of thirteen to play and I I cut my f thumb on a beer can um just before the finals. And so a Russian doctor pronounced me unfit to play for at least another five days or something like that and so I played at the end.
Speaker 2
Do you think that made a difference to the results?
Peter Donohoe
And we
Peter Donohoe
Well, it certainly made a difference to the feeling as far as I was concerned because of course it was very significant um to me that that the result came
Peter Donohoe
at least within hours of playing.
Speaker 4
Mm.
Peter Donohoe
I don't particularly like the idea of a competition anyway, but I think that those th th they're probably inevitable.
Presenter
But how else do you get noticed?
Peter Donohoe
Well, if you didn't have any competitions at all, then you would get noticed in some other way, but because they're there, you have to win one in order to be noticed. It's like A levels or O levels when you want a job. And and of course the fact that you've got A levels doesn't mean to say you approve of them.
Peter Donohoe
So that the fact that I won a competition doesn't mean to say I I approve of them either. It's it's the beginning of a career. I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that it's that it guarantees a career, and it doesn't at all, because there are so many competitions that that there are so many first prize winners.
Peter Donohoe
And there's only room for a certain number of us with with extremely successful careers.
Presenter
Right, let's hear your next record.
Peter Donohoe
I would like to um
Peter Donohoe
to suggest the um the the actual performance which at least contributed to winning the competition in Moscow, which was of the third piano concerto of Rachmaninoff, for two reasons. First of all, I I think it's one of the greatest piano concertos of all, and not only that, it represents, because it's so difficult, it represents, more than any other piece, one's achievement if one has one.
Peter Donohoe
Uh the the technical demands and the emotional and um structural demands on the performer in this piece are bigger than anything else in in in the repertoire. And so to look back at this would be enormously nostalgic for me from the point of view of the things that I'd achieved.
Peter Donohoe
Not only that, of course, it was the piece that came second in the final performance of the Moscow competition, preceded by the the fifteen minute stunning evasion we've already referred to.
Peter Donohoe
And um it was just such an incredible evening that I'll never forget it.
Presenter
Rachmaninoff's third piano concerto played by Peter Donahoe, with the USSR T V and Radio Symphony Orchestra conducted by Vladimir Fedosayev. You're taking quite a bit of yourself on to the island, Peter, your own recordings. Does that mean you enjoy hearing yourself?
Peter Donohoe
Well in in one of the cases it's it's the only recording there is, so I have to, but uh obviously I I enjoy looking back at performances that I'm particularly happy with and and remind me of particularly happy events. But there are only three.
Presenter
Anyway, you won the big one, and and Peter Donahoe, distinguished international pianist, was born, and the engagements flooded in. I mean, presumably then you were just allwhelmed with them.
Peter Donohoe
Just
Peter Donohoe
The nature of those engagements changes as time goes on. At first I think a lot of the promoters who are merely interested in the fact that you've recently won a competition and who basically forget about it six months later invite you to play for them. And I actually to some extent look back with uh at that with a certain amount of resentment because I don't want to be playing in front of the public because I just came from a competition. I want to be playing because they like the way I play.
Presenter
But the Russians have remained true throughout this. I mean once you are a superstar, I said that earlier. It's true, isn't it? Bit of a cult, Donahoe Mars.
Peter Donohoe
Yeah.
Peter Donohoe
Yes, it's rather embarrassing really, but yes, yes, it it does seem to happen and and I have to say that each time I've been there since, which is now it it it it amounts to eight times I think uh it's become even more so.
Peter Donohoe
It's rather like a Beatles concert from the mid sixties and in fact, after the concert they they follow you in the streets and they chant and things like that on your way to the hotel and they they re retain their distance, but they follow and they shout and they scream and it it's just quite incredible.
Presenter
Yeah.
Peter Donohoe
The whole thing, and it still goes on.
Presenter
Your sixth record.
Peter Donohoe
Well, I would like to introduce this in detail because it's a very significant piece for me in many ways, because it formed part of my introduction to the music of the twentieth century when I was quite young.
Peter Donohoe
And I have to some extent promoted the music of the twentieth century rather more than most pianists do.
Peter Donohoe
And it's the Tarangolida Symphony by Mession. And Mession's possibly the greatest living composer. That's a very debatable point I know, but he's certainly one of the greatest. And his wife was my tea my piano teacher in Paris for a year after the um after I I finished at the college in Manchester.
Peter Donohoe
And so I met Messian and worked with him in great detail. And in addition to that, I saw the piece performed at the Proms in the sixties, uh and I'd never heard of it, or even of the composer at that time, and I was absolutely blown over by the piece, and it's always been
Peter Donohoe
a very significant piece to me in in so many ways. And I recorded it, so I'm afraid again it's me, um, in I think nineteen eighty six, and it's the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra conducted by Simon Rattle.
Peter Donohoe
If you'd listened to that very, very carefully, you would have h heard us a trill on a Celeste, which was actually my wife. We also have a a daughter, by the way, who's, I think, showing signs of quite remarkable musicianship.
Speaker 2
Uh
Presenter
I bet. Anyway, that was Messian's Touring Galilea symphony, played by the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Simon Rattle, the pianist Peter Donahoe, the Celeste player misses Donahoe.
Presenter
I read, Peter, that uh you were involved in a in a seventy mile an hour car crash some years ago, and as you headed for impact you put your hands, your precious hands, under your arms armpits, is that right?
Peter Donohoe
You are
Peter Donohoe
Yes, that's right. Whether or not we were travelling at seventy miles an hour at the time is perhaps slightly dev debatable. Uh but uh yes, uh for a variety of reasons we spun off the road.
Peter Donohoe
Uh and um
Peter Donohoe
I think that uh had I not hidden my hands under my arms, uh that um we would have been crushed between two lorries.
Presenter
But it's interesting that your first thought was for your hands in that way.
Peter Donohoe
Well I'd heard that another pianist had done exactly the same thing at some point in my life and uh I always said to myself that that's what I would do.
Peter Donohoe
And it really did save save our lives.
Presenter
Tao.
Peter Donohoe
Well, simply because we ran off the road instead of remaining on it, where all these lorries were were out of control as well.
Peter Donohoe
And uh and so we we missed the the impact that we were supposedly destined for.
Presenter
So your hands obviously are heavily insured.
Peter Donohoe
Mm. Well actually they could be, but they're not. I o they ought to be. You're quite right. Thank you for reminding me.
Peter Donohoe
No, they're not.
Presenter
Good.
Peter Donohoe
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Uh
Peter Donohoe
It's remarkably difficult to persuade an insurance company, as a matter of fact. The first thing they'd they'd say is um
Peter Donohoe
Uh how many hours a day are you at risk? By which they mean that your hands are at their most risk during your work.
Peter Donohoe
Which of course is a total misunderstanding of the problem. It's when you're not working that when you're putting a curtain rail up or
Peter Donohoe
Or driving a car, that's when the real problem is, and of course they're not interested in that.
Presenter
Well, I wanted to ask you about all that. I mean, are you going to be are you a do-it-yourselfer? Uh, are you going to be any good on the island? Can you build a shelter?
Peter Donohoe
I think I could, yes, if I took it slowly.
Presenter
So you do wield a hammer despite the fact you might hit yourself on the thumb.
Peter Donohoe
Yes, yes I do. I've nearly sliced one finger off before now, and I've also drilled into the palm of my hand. Just a day before a Wigmore Hall concert, actually. But I still did it.
Presenter
Yeah.
Peter Donohoe
Um but yes, I I think I would have a go.
Presenter
Uh
Presenter
And will you, Peter, on the island, be lost without an audience?
Peter Donohoe
It's difficult to say. I d no, I don't think so. No. I think I think in in the situation that I found myself I would accept my limitations and I would be very happy to get away from them in some ways.
Peter Donohoe
It's obviously a total change. It's almost the antithesis of what I do, of course. So, uh in many ways it would be very attractive.
Presenter
Your seventh record, please.
Peter Donohoe
I just had to have a piece by Brahms because I think that of all the composers um he's one of the most indispensable.
Peter Donohoe
And I nearly chose a piano concerto, but I think we've had enough of those. And so this is the second movement of the Brahms Third Symphony.
Presenter
Part of the second movement of Brahm's third symphony, Bruno Walter conducting the Columbia Symphony Orchestra.
Presenter
Peter, how long is the career of a concert pianist you go on to be dropped?
Peter Donohoe
Yes, I think you can
Peter Donohoe
I think you can probably maintain
Peter Donohoe
This because the the amount of stress that's involved, which is huge on the stage, is immediately dissipated at the end of a concert. And I think also that although I don't display much sign of it physically, it keeps you quite fit. Um there there are parts of the body that uh tend to get bigger and bigger of course, uh but I th the bit that matters, the the breathing system and everything is constantly given a kind of aerobic treatment in performance, and you remain very healthy.
Peter Donohoe
And as long as your your mind
Peter Donohoe
retains its youthfulness. I think I think it you can go on until
Peter Donohoe
Until a very late stage. M my ambition is actually to continue doing what I'm doing and perhaps to to um
Peter Donohoe
to limit the number of concerts a little bit more than I have so far.
Presenter
How many do you do a year?
Peter Donohoe
This year, I think it's a hundred and forty.
Peter Donohoe
Um which is a little bit too many.
Peter Donohoe
In the season eighty two three I did two hundred and forty, which is just completely r ludicrous. And uh obviously that that completely devastates one's domestic life and and actually even interferes with the amount of practice you do. And so I'd I'd like to tone it down a little bit.
Peter Donohoe
I think eighty would be a good a good number.
Presenter
And um what single piece of advice would you hand down to the aspiring concert pianist, I wonder?
Peter Donohoe
Well, I think um
Peter Donohoe
I think the most important thing is not to specialise too early, not to be snobbish about different aspects of music, in other words, to play chamber music.
Peter Donohoe
And if you can, if you have a another instrument, to play in orchestras as much as you can, and to work with people and not in a practice room, as much as you possibly can as well.
Peter Donohoe
To keep your feet on the ground.
Peter Donohoe
Um if you're going to not believe the bad reviews, do not believe the good ones either.
Peter Donohoe
And generally to try and sublimate the the unfortunate part of the ego, which can so easily get in the way. But of course.
Peter Donohoe
There is another side of the ego which is very important, because without it you can't go out at all and play.
Peter Donohoe
It's a very fine line, it's it's it's uh a series of very happy coincidences if you can do this.
Peter Donohoe
Uh a lot of different coincidences and I I think I'm extremely lucky with most of them.
Presenter
Let's have your eighth record.
Peter Donohoe
I needed to have a piece of chamber music, and I suspect that this piece has been chosen by many other castaways as well, because it is one of the greatest pieces of chamber music ever written Schubert's String Quintet in C major.
Presenter
Schubert's string quintet in C major played by the Amadeus Quartet with Robert Cohen.
Presenter
So, Peter Donahoe, you're one record. How are you going to choose one of those?
Peter Donohoe
Well, of course, as a performer one spends one's whole time trying to work out whether
Peter Donohoe
Uh one's enthusiasm for a piece of music is
Peter Donohoe
Permanent or otherwise.
Peter Donohoe
And I don't know whether it's coincidence, but it's always the chamber music which is the longest lasting. Possibly because it's the
Peter Donohoe
the one that doesn't immediately grab you when you when you first hear it. I think that's probably universally true because it's the least theatrical um
Peter Donohoe
mode of music making. And so I'm going to go for the Schubert.
Presenter
And your book, you've got the complete works of Shakespeare, and you've got the Bible. You can have another one. What would you like?
Peter Donohoe
So I need something to make me laugh, and so I would l I would rather like to go for the complete um scripts of Billy Connolly.
Presenter
Has he bound them all together?
Peter Donohoe
I wouldn't know, but I hope he does so by the by the time I'm stranded.
Presenter
We'll bind them together for you anyway.
Peter Donohoe
Blanket
Presenter
And and your luxury, Peter.
Peter Donohoe
Uh can I have something that's slightly practical? Uh something to sleep on? A water bed?
Presenter
Well, why not? I mean, I it's not practical in that you could use it to escape or anything. You'll just rely on it.
Peter Donohoe
I think it would sink, wouldn't it?
Presenter
What if you tried to float away?
Peter Donohoe
If it's full of water, it seems to me that it probably would.
Presenter
It seems to me that it probably would.
Peter Donohoe
Uh and and if I could sleep really well, I think that uh any problems that being on a desert island would present um me with, I I think I could cope with it. I've always found in my life that that you can do anything if you've slept enough.
Presenter
You shall have it all. Peter Donahoe, thank you very much indeed for letting us hear your desert island discs.
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Presenter asks
Your poor music teacher — can he have been aware that he was in receipt of world‑class material?
Well, certainly none of the rest of us were aware of it [that he was world‑class material]. I never thought in those terms myself. I just wanted to play. I wasn't thinking of any kind of career at that time.
Presenter asks
Tell me about 1982, the Moscow International Tschaikovsky Piano Competition. You were 29 years old, and suddenly they were chanting your name on the streets of Moscow. How did it happen?
Well, I only ever did four competitions in my life … I became a finalist in all of them. But I actually jointly won this one in Moscow with a Russian … It was like a dream come true, because I knew that would be the door opening to a career … I came out of it reasonably well, I'm very pleased to say.
Presenter asks
I read that you were involved in a 70‑mile‑an‑hour car crash some years ago, and as you headed for impact you put your hands under your armpits. Is that right?
Yes, that's right. … had I not hidden my hands under my arms, that we would have been crushed between two lorries … it really did save our lives.
Presenter asks
How long is the career of a concert pianist? Do you go on until you're dropped?
I think you can probably maintain this because the amount of stress that's involved, which is huge on the stage, is immediately dissipated at the end of a concert … you remain very healthy … I think you can go on until a very late stage. My ambition is actually to continue doing what I'm doing … to limit the number of concerts a little bit.
“I spent hours and hours trying to try to piece together the complete work … I came to love it so much that I was really rather disappointed when I discovered there was another quarter of an hour of the piece.”
“I decided, as part of my hero worship, that I would never learn to read music at that stage … I think I learned to use my ears.”
“It was actually more like two hours later on [the ovation]. … after the final that I gave the jury went away to consider the verdict … I was supposed to be the third out of thirteen to play and I cut my thumb on a beer can just before the finals.”
“It's rather like a Beatles concert from the mid sixties … after the concert they follow you in the streets and they chant and things like that … they retain their distance, but they follow and they shout and they scream.”
“I've nearly sliced one finger off before now, and I've also drilled into the palm of my hand. Just a day before a Wigmore Hall concert, actually.”