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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Michael Parkinson
British musical theatre actress best known for playing Eva Perón in Evita, and starring in Cats and Chess.
Eight records
Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)
Choir of Christchurch Cathedral, Oxford and the Academy of Ancient Music
Reminds me of my school days, the first ever public performance I gave with the Southor Girls' Choir.
My first introduction to musical theatre.
Reminds me of a time when I was becoming aware of pop music; a girlfriend and I tried to learn this song.
Here Comes the SunFavourite
From the Abbey Road album, very much in my life during the sixties and my Hair days.
Introduced by my music teacher at school; I'd never tire of listening to this.
Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes
I play it all the time in the car, very loudly.
Another ambition of mine is to sing opera; this is a wonderful piece from Madame Butterfly.
The keepsakes
The book
The Complete Works of Charles Dickens
Charles Dickens
Well, I don't know if it's allowed, but I've tried on anyway to take the complete works of Charles Dickens. I've read quite a few of His stories and they're just such wonderful stories. I love the way he uses language the way we don't speak today. Also, he writes rather long, thick books, and as I'm a particularly slow reader, I should think that would keep me amused for some time.
The luxury
I've chosen a piano because I've been promising myself for some time now that I will learn to play the piano ... at least I could have all the time in the world to practice the piano without annoying anybody.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Has it been luck or good management, do you think?
I think, uh, I have to say luck probably and a lot of hard work and … Just a matter of uh persevering really, because very early on in my career I found that I would go out for auditions and uh … I always managed somehow or other to get down to the last two or three. … Inevitably I would then get the big elbow and uh somehow didn't seem to quite get … The job.
Presenter asks
What kind of background did you come from? What did your parents do? Was there any showbiz in the family?
Well, only in an amateur way, really. My father still plays the drums and um … My mother has sung. They both were involved in concert party during the war. So in that sense there's theatre and music in the family. But by profession my father was an estate agent and my mother is a milliner.
Presenter asks
The recording
Timestamps play the recording from that turn
Speaker 3
Hello, I'm Kirstie Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs Archive. For rights reasons we've had to shorten the music. The programme was originally broadcast in nineteen eighty seven, and the presenter was Michael Parkinson.
Presenter
To list the shows our castaways appeared in is to catalogue the great Western musical hits of the past 20 years. She made her debut in The Chorus of Hair, followed it with Jesus Christ Superstar, and played her first leading role in Greece. She scored a great personal success in Billy, opposite Michael Crawford, and followed this with the role that made her an international star, Eva Perron, in Evita. Then came Cats, followed by the lead in the current hit musical, Chess, and she is Elaine Page.
Presenter
Elaine, as I said in the introduction there, I mean, all those are parts that any other actress would die for. Has it been luck or good management, do you think?
Elaine Paige
I think, uh, I have to say luck probably and a lot of hard work and
Elaine Paige
Just a matter of uh persevering really, because very early on in my career I found that I would go out for auditions and uh
Elaine Paige
I always managed somehow or other to get down to the last two or three.
Elaine Paige
Inevitably I would then get the big elbow and uh somehow didn't seem to quite get
Elaine Paige
The job. I mean, a lot of those that you've mentioned, the early ones anyway, were very much uh chorus.
Presenter
Yes, but nonetheless you were in them and nonetheless they had a a significant part in the development of
Elaine Paige
Bless you in.
Elaine Paige
Oh, absolutely, yes. You can't start at the top. I mean, you've got to learn and and that's how I learnt really through being in the shows rather than uh at drama school, although I was at drama school for uh three years.
Presenter
Well, let's we'll go through your your your history in a moment. But first of all, let let me ask you how do you think you'd react to this new role you've got, which is living on a desert island. Are you going to be any good at it, do you think?
Elaine Paige
Well, I don't know. I've kind of been thinking about it, and uh I do like to be alone quite a lot, so I think in in that sense uh I'd be all right. I don't know how for for how long, though. I mean, it's it's all very well to say that, but uh
Elaine Paige
We live in an age where one can pick up the phone and uh go and see some friends or whatever. But I I think in that sense I might quite like it. I'm a fairly practical kind of person, so
Elaine Paige
I would quite like the idea of trying to um, I dunno, build myself somewhere to live. Yes, exactly. So I dunno, yes, I think I might be quite good at it.
Presenter
Build myself
Presenter
And what about the music that you've chosen to accompany on this on this island? Are they all memories or?
Elaine Paige
Yes, memories from different various times in my life. Yeah.
Presenter
What about the first choice then? What's that a memory of?
Elaine Paige
Well, the Hallelujah Chorus reminds me of my school days, and in fact it was the first ever public performance that I gave with the Southor Girls' Choir, and it reminds me of music lessons whereby every
Elaine Paige
Whenever we had music lessons, we would go in and we'd have to learn several more bars of this.
Elaine Paige
what I consider to be quite a difficult piece, and it just reminds me of it's the one and only time also that I've ever sung with a lot of voices. And there's something quite gratifying about being able to learn your own harmony line, your own part, and hold your own when all all around you is singing something totally different. So uh it reminds me of those days.
Speaker 4
Oh no, no, but deep button craven.
Presenter
The Alleluia Chorus by Handel performed by the Choir of Christchurch Cathedral, Oxford and the Academy of Ancient Music.
Presenter
And then Paige, what kind of background did you come from? What did your parents do? Was there any showbiz in the family?
Elaine Paige
Well, only in an amateur way, really. My father still plays the drums and um
Elaine Paige
My mother has sung. They both were involved in concert party during the war. So in that sense there's theatre and music in the family. But by profession my father was an estate agent and my mother is a milliner.
Presenter
So where do you get you you get your ambitions from then? Because I one assumes looking at your career that you you had an ambition from a very early age too.
Elaine Paige
But I don't know that I did really. I mean, it it was something that uh my family and I both together seemed to discover really. No, it wasn't an ambition that I had very early on. In fact, I the one ambition I had I wanted to be a tennis player. That's what I remember quite clearly. And of course the headmistress at my school said to me, Well, that's hopeless, Elaine, because you're far too small, you can't see over the net and she was actually absolutely quite right about that. But I didn't see why that should stop me being a great tennis player, but still, um
Presenter
So how does stage school come into it then?
Elaine Paige
Well, it was really from my secondary school, South Orr. My music teacher would get us to perform Hallelujah Chorus or we did a potted version of uh Mozart The Magic Flute. So I think it really came from that, really, from just doing these end of term plays and musical recitals and so on, like any school child does, I suppose. But um I seem to remember wanting to do that far more than the academic studies that one was required to do at school, and so I would sort of make up all kinds of reasons and stories to get out of cl of the class that I should be in, to go and
Elaine Paige
you know, sit at the piano in the assembly hall and, uh, rehearse.
Presenter
Another choice of record, Piselane.
Elaine Paige
Well, this one is uh
Elaine Paige
A song from West Side's Story, which I suppose was my first introduction to musical theatre.
Elaine Paige
It's one of those musicals where all the elements seem to come together perfectly well the story, the music, the lyrics, the style of the piece. And so I've chosen Barbara Streisand to sing her version of Something's Coming.
Speaker 4
Yes it will, maybe just by holding still, it'll be there. Come on something, come on in, don't be shy, need a guy, pull up a chair. Yes for me and something great is coming.
Presenter
That was something that's coming from Westside Story sung by Barbara Streisand.
Presenter
Elaine
Presenter
I suppose it was from was it from uh stage school that you went for your very first audition?
Elaine Paige
Oh yes.
Presenter
And how old were you then?
Elaine Paige
I should think sixteen. I hadn't been there very long, in fact, only a matter of months.
Elaine Paige
When I went for my first audition, I will remember that till my dying day. Why is that?
Presenter
My dying day.
Elaine Paige
I'd learnt this song, I'm Just a Girl Who Can't Say No, and I thought I knew the lyric perfectly well. And I got to the audition and they called my name, and that was a whole hoo ha trying to ex spell my name and explain who I was.
Presenter
We should say here because your name wasn't page at that time, right?
Elaine Paige
No, it's my real name is Bickerstaff, and you can see why I changed it, because every time I went out we'd go through this rig and roll of spelling it and uh could you say that again? Has it got an E on the end? Oh, it was that used to take up five minutes of their time. And um so I get to the audition, we go through all that business with the name, and then they ask me what I'm going to sing, and I tell them it's I'm just a girl who can't say no, and I start off.
Elaine Paige
Terribly well I remember about the first four lines.
Elaine Paige
And then there was this terrible blank in my brain. It was like I suddenly didn't have a brain at all and just nothing.
Elaine Paige
And I found myself just kind of going daddy daddy daddy la dee daddy and I felt such a fool and but I I didn't stop. I just kept on going dardy daddy daddy and in the end they said thank you, thank you and that was the first time I ever heard that sort of
Elaine Paige
the chorus over the the from the darkness of the theatre. And uh of course I realized that nerves do very strange things to you and that you have to learn a song, I have to learn anything, really, really m
Elaine Paige
E m more than you think you need to.
Presenter
Another choice of record, please for me.
Elaine Paige
Well, this one is the Everley brothers and um
Elaine Paige
It reminds me of a time in my life when I suppose I was just becoming aware of pop music really.
Elaine Paige
and uh a girlfriend and I tried to learn this song and again I sang the harmony part and she sang the lead line and uh we used to bore our friends and our parents with our rendition of All I Have to Do is Dream.
Speaker 4
Night or day
Speaker 4
Only trouble is, gee whiz, I'm dreaming my life away I need you so that I could die I love you so And that is why whenever I want you all I have to do
Presenter
That was the Everly Brothers, and all I have to do is dream.
Presenter
Elaine, you made your Western debut in 1968 in Hare. What do you remember of that time and of that musical? Were they good days?
Elaine Paige
Oh, yes, I'd ha I'd go as far as to say it's probably one of the happiest times in my life.
Elaine Paige
I was young, I was only eighteen years old, and uh a hippie of course.
Presenter
You were a hippie waiter. Oh yes, very much.
Elaine Paige
Oh, yes, very much so, to my mother's disbelief. I look back fondly at that time because it was a time of sort of freedom and.
Elaine Paige
a very positive time for for young people. We all had there was a job to be had, we all had money. I and as you say, I was in my first West End show, Hare. And
Elaine Paige
It was just I don't know, probably I'm being a bit romantic about it, but it was a a wonderful time. I remember I lived in a commune in Hampstead a rather upmarket commune, I hastened to add, in a penthouse flat, actually.
Elaine Paige
But uh and then we all at one point decided that we were going to leave there and go down and live in the country and grow our own vegetables, which was quite horrendous. That never worked at all. I mean, it was it was all these wonderful ideals, but uh
Elaine Paige
Trying to put it all into practice was really another matter altogether.
Presenter
But it was a it was a rather silly time too, wasn't it? I've always think when I've seen sort of the newsreels of that time, because I lived through it too, but essentially silly it was. Pleasant but silly.
Elaine Paige
Yeah, I suppose it was a bit silly. I mean, looking back on it it seems silly, but at the time it didn't. Um at the time we I I remember sort of believing in the whole thing very much so, in in that uh, you know, love and peace and to treat your fellow man with respect and care and gentleness and kindness
Elaine Paige
And all that, and everything that went along with it. I think that's uh that's admirable. I think it's a a shame, in a way, that uh there there isn't en enough of it any more. But uh I suppose it was a bit silly, yes, but uh it was harmless.
Presenter
Another choice of record, please.
Elaine Paige
I couldn't go on a desert island without the Beatles, and um I've chosen a track from their Abbey Road album, which was very much in my life during the sixties and my hair days. So um this is that fantastic track, Here Comes the Sun.
Speaker 4
I'm all lonely.
Speaker 4
You darling
Speaker 4
It feels like years since it's been here.
Speaker 4
Here comes the sun Here comes the sun I say
Speaker 4
It's alright.
Presenter
There's the Beatles, and here comes the sun.
Presenter
Elaine, you've worked, as I said, uh for twenty years. Your your work's been associated mainly with with musicals on the West End stage, but you've also done straight acting as as well. You in fact worked for a while with Joan Littlewood's Actors' Workshop at Stratford East, didn't you?
Elaine Paige
I did, yes, but I have to say that was primarily in a sort of a review type thing, so it was sort of.
Presenter
I
Elaine Paige
sketches and scenes from plays and things, and singing and so on. In fact, it was one of the maddest uh shows I've ever been involved in. Every night there would be at either side of the
Elaine Paige
Cross arch, a different running order. So it was never the same twice. She would.
Elaine Paige
be infuriated if you went on and came off the same way. And you know, she said, I don't care, one knife you want to swing in from the on a rope from the box you can do so, but I don't want you to do it the same ever twice. So it was a great learning time for me because uh when you work in commercial theatre obviously one is limited to a certain amount of rehearsal and a a certain budget and so on and so forth. And over there it was much freer. You were allowed to uh experiment a lot more, even in front of the poor paying audience. I mean that was what she wanted. She wanted you to do it different every time you performed. And so it was a great learning process and wonderful fun.
Presenter
Did you though at at any time I mean you did you did Hair and of course, you did Jesus Christ a superstar, then you you started in Greece and then you went into to Billy with Michael Crawford and had tremendous success in all of them. Was there a sense though in which you find yourself being typecast, that you you thought, look, enough is enough of the of the musical theater or or something else?
Elaine Paige
Or something else? Very much so. That is the problem. That.
Elaine Paige
You start to go from one to the other to the other, and of course, then you are known only as a musical.
Elaine Paige
Performer in musical theatre.
Elaine Paige
And of course I did begin my career as a straight actress in Birmingham. And so, yes, I did very much feel that I wanted to shake that and try and get out of what it felt really rather like being in a rut. But of course in making that choice I I put myself out of work for probably about, I don't know, the longest that I'd ever been out, which was over six months. But uh again, it was through my own choice, so I didn't uh mind so much. But it was very difficult to try and get my foot back into the the straight side of the of the profession.
Presenter
And I take
Elaine Paige
And I don't think really I ever achieved it. I mean, the doors were beginning to open up, of course, when Evita came along.
Presenter
Well it can't be a bad thing to have happened.
Elaine Paige
No, I couldn't say no to that, could I?
Presenter
More about Avita in a moment. Let's have another choice of record.
Elaine Paige
Well, I wanted to play a piece of Mozart. Again, um, going back to my school days, it was my music teacher that introduced Mozart into my life, and I'm very grateful to her for it. And over the years I've
Elaine Paige
grown to
Elaine Paige
Love listening to Mozart and um
Elaine Paige
Indeed, I even still try and sing some of it. We used to do potted versions at school of uh well, one potted version of the magic flute, and occasionally at singing lessons I attempt to to sing some Mozart, but uh I don't think this I could ever sing. It's the most wonderful aria called Queen of the Night, and I'd never tire of listening to this.
Speaker 4
My improvement
Presenter
That was the Queen of the Nights aria from Act Two of Mozart's The Magic Flute, sung there by Karen Ott, with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Karayam.
Presenter
Elaine
Presenter
Evita, a huge influence on your life, a a turning point, I mean, transformed you into a major international star. How great was the competition for Evita, to start with?
Elaine Paige
It was great in that I was told, certainly via the press, though how true it is, I don't know, that there certainly, I should think, over four hundred people were seen for the role, and then, of course, the press started saying that
Elaine Paige
such people as Faye Dunaway, um Liza Manelli, and they started sort of, you know, name dropping every woman who was sort of in her thirties or whatever to play this part. So it was fairly stiff competition, that's true, and I did, I remember, four auditions for it, and got down to the the old four people again, and I thought, Here we go.
Elaine Paige
But uh this time I was lucky.
Presenter
Did you want it very badly I mean, obviously you did, but did you want it from the point of view that you knew that it was your part?
Elaine Paige
Yes, it was one of those things, to be honest, when I my agent first uh suggested that I auditioned for it, I was reluctant because, as I was saying earlier, I was just about to open a few new doors in terms of straight acting, and this meant that I would be putting myself right back where I started. But of course, once I'd heard the music and read the sort of synopsis and I started to uh try and research a bit about her, I started to find out about her and Argentina and that that whole era.
Elaine Paige
and I became fascinated.
Elaine Paige
By the Woman
Elaine Paige
And um once that had happened
Elaine Paige
Yes, then I really wanted it very badly because I felt that I could uh serve the piece well, because there were certain things in terms of my height, which is fairly obvious, was correct for the part. But I also felt that uh this was an opportunity for me to be able to
Elaine Paige
put together something that I had been in a dilemma about, which was my acting.
Elaine Paige
Career and my music and my singing, and this was going to be able to afford me to be able to put the two things together.
Presenter
You became of course that that classic show was uh a phenomenon. You became the overnight success after being in the business for ten years in the US. I think you covered that. I mean things did change for me, didn't they?
Elaine Paige
You go with that.
Elaine Paige
Well, it did, yes. I mean, we do all laugh about that, but in truth it was true that my life changed radically overnight and it was quite difficult to handle really because I was very much on my own. You know, I had an agent and that was about it. I didn't really have
Elaine Paige
A personal manager or
Elaine Paige
or accountants or lawyers or anyone really looking after me. It was just me living off my own wits along with my agent, basically. And of course everybody wanted a part of me. I was offered recording contracts and you know, adverts to advertise this, that, and the other, and doing interviews
Elaine Paige
I could have done several interviews every day of the week, and I was suddenly thrown into this whole lifestyle that was totally alien to me.
Elaine Paige
And uh looking back, I wonder how I got through it without sort of cracking up.
Presenter
Probably helped being a bigger stuff.
Presenter
That's another choice of rec
Elaine Paige
Well
Elaine Paige
This is a song from Lena Horne, and uh somebody that I've only sort of gotten to know about over the last two or three years, actually, a friend of mine.
Elaine Paige
asked me to go and see her actor at the London Palladium, and I went along, really obviously knowing about her, but not knowing a great deal about her work.
Elaine Paige
And
Elaine Paige
She just blew me away, the most amazing live performance, and she just made me feel oh, I might as well give up because she just has everything. This is a great song that she sang
Elaine Paige
Two or three minutes, maybe five minutes into the opening of of this act that I saw, and it's called I've Got a Name.
Speaker 4
Like the pine tree line on a winding road.
Speaker 4
I got a man.
Elaine Paige
Uh
Speaker 4
Like the singing bird and the croaking toad, yes
Speaker 4
I got a name.
Elaine Paige
Uh I got a name.
Presenter
That was Lena Horne, and I've got a name.
Presenter
Elaine, it must have seemed impossible after Ibita to have to have followed it with um an equal success, but in fact you did. I mean you you did cats.
Elaine Paige
Well, that was pure luck, I have to say. Uh after Evita I was out of work for over a year. I couldn't get arrested. Just nothing. I was offered every musical that anybody had ever written, which were, as you rightly say, I it couldn't better or follow Evita, because that was such a stunning piece. And I just wasn't really offered anything that was worth while, so I just sat it out and thought, Oh, well, that's it then, you know, I've here we are, start all over again. And then about, I don't know, well over a year after Evita, Cameron McIntosh rang me up out of the blue and said that Judy Dench had injured herself and uh
Elaine Paige
Would I consider uh taking over her role in cats? I mean it was pure luck.
Elaine Paige
Uh lucky for me, not so lucky for Judy.
Elaine Paige
And that's how it came about.
Presenter
And then you followed that, of course, with with chess. And when you look back, you know, as I said, you've been associated with this very significant chapter in British theatre.
Elaine Paige
Mm.
Speaker 4
Uh
Elaine Paige
Yeah.
Presenter
Which, I mean, Tim and Andrew Law Webber have have contributed to greatly. It must give me an extraordinary feeling looking back and thinking that you were there at a time when two writers particularly changed the the the face of musical theatre.
Elaine Paige
Yes, that's right. I was embarking on my musical career, if you like, around the time that Andrew and Tim were writing Joseph and Jesus Christ Superstar. And of course musical theatre has changed very much since that period to date in that um
Elaine Paige
It is a lot of new stuff, anyway, that is being written by Tim or Andrew or whoever. It seems to be much more now based on opera in in terms that it's nearly all sung, as opposed to the old format which was you'd have a dialogue scene and then a nice song and then another dialogue scene.
Elaine Paige
Yes, I've been very lucky over my career so far in that I've been involved in some very innovative theatre, starting of course with Hare.
Presenter
Yeah.
Elaine Paige
Very lucky.
Presenter
But what about now?'Cause you've just lately come out of of chess. What are you doing? Resting or or for
Elaine Paige
Well, yes, I'm having a well earned rest, and of course there's always lots to do. I'm at the moment uh trying to find some new material to make a new album, and uh November, December time I'm hoping to go out on tour, so I'm putting that together. It'll be a new
Elaine Paige
A new concert tour. So I'm I'm very busy. There's always lots to do.
Presenter
Another record, please, Elmen.
Elaine Paige
Well, this song is um from Paul Simon, someone that I've admired over the years since uh.
Elaine Paige
Bridge Over Troubled Water really back in the seventies. I just like this song. It's a great album, and I I play it all the time in the car, very loudly.
Elaine Paige
And uh and this is one of my favorite tracks from the album, it's called Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes.
Speaker 4
People say she's crazy, she got diamonds on the soles of her shoes.
Speaker 4
Well, that's one way to lose these walking booths Diamonds on soles in your shoes
Speaker 4
She was physically forgotten, but then she slipped into my pocket with my core keys She said you've taken me for granted because of me
Speaker 4
Where is Donna?
Presenter
Paul Simon and diamonds on the soles of her shoes. Elaine Page.
Presenter
What about the future, though? I mean, you you're gonna make the records you say and you're gonna tour. But what about Broadway? You must have that in your sights as well. It's some something you've you've not done, isn't it?
Elaine Paige
That's correct. It's still to be achieved. Yes, I would like to work there very much. It's always fun.
Elaine Paige
performing to audiences other than the British because uh their reactions are very different and
Elaine Paige
It's just good fun, but I want to make sure that it's the right piece of work.
Elaine Paige
That I do.
Elaine Paige
Maybe it'll be with chess, who knows? Um they say it's going to will be going in January next year, but it's still quite a way off, so it really depends on what happens between now and then.
Presenter
And what about the acting as opposed to the singing? I mean, are are you still still have that ambition as well?
Elaine Paige
Yeah.
Elaine Paige
Absolutely, that's something very much that I still keep telling everyone I want to do. Nobody takes the blind bit of notice, so I think that it's probably one of those things I should probably have to find something myself and then take it to my agent, saying, Now listen, this is what I want to do, let's do it. I think at the end of the day, that's probably w how it's going to happen.
Presenter
And looking back on this on this career you've had with with so many highs, so many wonderful opening nights and occasions when you've you've been with a successful show, can you just pick out one moment, one opening night perhaps that you'll remember?
Presenter
Above all others,
Elaine Paige
Well, it has to be a Vita really because uh
Elaine Paige
That was so extraordinary.
Elaine Paige
And it was the first time, so that will always remain in my memory as as the
Elaine Paige
special night. My father always used to say to me, You know, you'll get there, you've just got to you know,'cause I was to moan about always being the the third or fourth in the auditions and then getting the elbow. And he used to say to me, Oh, you'll get there, you've just got to persevere, perseverance furthest and all this and Evita sort of became a family joke.
Elaine Paige
In that, I was getting closer and closer, and I said, I'm not going to make it, Dad, I'm just not going to get there. So it meant a great deal for them as well, because they had sort of.
Elaine Paige
seen me through all these hard, what, twelve years prior of struggle. No, I'll never forget that. David Land, the producer, made me a forty five record of the applause on the first night, and it goes on for something like oh, I think it's about
Elaine Paige
Nine minutes long, and all it is he sent me this record, and I thought, What's this? And all it is is people clapping.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Elaine Paige
And on the label it's the Evita First Night Applause. So that's something that will remain in my memory f forever, probably, I'm sure.
Presenter
Final choice of record, Wynne, please.
Elaine Paige
Another ambition of mine is to sing opera, which I'm sure I will never achieve, but I singing lessons only, possibly. But this is a wonderful piece of music from Madame Butterfly, and it's The Aria One Fine Day sung by the most wonderful voice ever, Mirella
Speaker 4
So kida kiamera patur floid laung.
Speaker 4
You sing the honey
Speaker 4
When you start on a scorest
Speaker 4
Lord by God and
Presenter
That was one fine day from Puccini's Madden Butterfly, sung by Mirella Frenny with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Karian.
Presenter
Elaine Page, you're you're now on this desert island with your eight records. You have to imagine now that uh a wave comes along and seven are swept away, you're left with one record. Which would you choose to preserve?
Elaine Paige
Well, I think it's going to have to be uh
Elaine Paige
The silly time. I think it's going to have to be here comes the sun,'cause that
Elaine Paige
Reminds me of as I said a very happy time in my life, so that's the one I've decided to keep.
Presenter
Now, what about the book? You can assume that you've got the works of Shakespeare and you've got the Bible with you. What else would you take?
Elaine Paige
Well, I don't know if it's allowed, but I've tried on anyway to take the complete works of Charles Dickens. I've read quite a few of
Elaine Paige
His uh
Elaine Paige
stories and they're just such wonderful stories. I love the way he uses language the way we don't speak today. Also, he writes rather long, thick books, and as I'm a
Elaine Paige
Particularly slow reader, I should think that would uh keep me amused for some time.
Presenter
So all the works of Dickens in one volume, yes. All right, fine. Okay, and then the luxury object in anime.
Elaine Paige
Modern volume, yes. All right, fine.
Elaine Paige
Yes, well I've chosen a piano because uh I've been promising myself for some time now that I will learn to play the piano, and being in the profession that I am and and having the lifestyle that I do, there isn't always a lot of time to devote to having piano lessons and, more important, practising the damn thing. One's always having to rush off here, there, and everywhere. So I thought, well, if I was stuck on a desert island, at least I could uh have all the time in the world to uh practice the piano without annoying anybody. And uh I think that equally would keep me amused.
Presenter
Olympes, thank you very much indeed.
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What do you remember of that time [in Hair] and of that musical? Were they good days?
Oh, yes, I'd ha I'd go as far as to say it's probably one of the happiest times in my life. … I was young, I was only eighteen years old, and uh a hippie of course. … Oh, yes, very much so, to my mother's disbelief. I look back fondly at that time because it was a time of sort of freedom and. … a very positive time for for young people. We all had there was a job to be had, we all had money. I and as you say, I was in my first West End show, Hare. … It was just I don't know, probably I'm being a bit romantic about it, but it was a a wonderful time. I remember I lived in a commune in Hampstead a rather upmarket commune, I hastened to add, in a penthouse flat, actually. … But uh and then we all at one point decided that we were going to leave there and go down and live in the country and grow our own vegetables, which was quite horrendous. That never worked at all. I mean, it was it was all these wonderful ideals, but uh … Trying to put it all into practice was really another matter altogether.
Presenter asks
How great was the competition for Evita, to start with?
It was great in that I was told, certainly via the press, though how true it is, I don't know, that there certainly, I should think, over four hundred people were seen for the role, and then, of course, the press started saying that … such people as Faye Dunaway, um Liza Manelli, and they started sort of, you know, name dropping every woman who was sort of in her thirties or whatever to play this part. So it was fairly stiff competition, that's true, and I did, I remember, four auditions for it, and got down to the the old four people again, and I thought, Here we go. … But uh this time I was lucky.
Presenter asks
What about the future? But what about Broadway? You must have that in your sights as well. It's something you've not done, isn't it?
That's correct. It's still to be achieved. Yes, I would like to work there very much. It's always fun. … performing to audiences other than the British because uh their reactions are very different and … It's just good fun, but I want to make sure that it's the right piece of work. … That I do. … Maybe it'll be with chess, who knows? Um they say it's going to will be going in January next year, but it's still quite a way off, so it really depends on what happens between now and then.
Presenter asks
Which [record] would you choose to preserve?
Well, I think it's going to have to be uh … The silly time. I think it's going to have to be here comes the sun,'cause that … Reminds me of as I said a very happy time in my life, so that's the one I've decided to keep.
“I think, uh, I have to say luck probably and a lot of hard work and … Just a matter of uh persevering really.”
“I look back fondly at that time because it was a time of sort of freedom and. … a very positive time for for young people.”
“I felt that I could uh serve the piece well, because there were certain things in terms of my height, which is fairly obvious, was correct for the part. But I also felt that uh this was an opportunity for me to be able to … put together something that I had been in a dilemma about, which was my acting … Career and my music and my singing.”
“My father always used to say to me, You know, you'll get there, you've just got to … persevere, perseverance furthest and all this and Evita sort of became a family joke.”