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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
Composer best known for his many film scores written during the golden age of Hollywood.
Eight records
Chaconne from Violin Partita No. 2 in D minor, BWV 1004
I started out as a violinist. I started to play the violin when I was five. ... But the chargon was one of the pieces that impressed me most. I think it is the greatest violin music.
Symphony No. 9 in D minor, Op. 125 (Fourth Movement)
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Wilhelm Furtwängler
Apart from everything, I think the Ninth Symphony is the greatest music ever composed, especially the first movement, but the last movement is just incredible. ... It's one of the greatest achievements of human mind.
Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 68 (Fourth Movement)
New York Philharmonic, conducted by Bruno Walter
Well, I was very fond of the music of Brahms and quite agreed with Billow, who said when he had heard the first symphony by Brahms, that this is the tenth symphony by Beethoven. It is just as great.
La Mer (Dialogue du vent et de la mer)
Philadelphia Orchestra, conducted by Arturo Toscanini
I knew very little of Le Bussy before I went to Paris. But suddenly a new world opened up to me, which is French Impressionism.
Daphnis et Chloé (Closing Scene)
I was in Paris when I first saw Daphnis and Cloa. ... And it of course is is a splendor of orchestration, of colour and imagination. And it's I think it's a great, great work.
London Symphony Orchestra and Chorus, conducted by Benjamin Britten
Well, I didn't sleep all night. I was reading that score and I said, When is it going to be recorded? ... And finally I got the record too and I was Enchanted.
The Rite of Spring (Sacrificial Dance)
Columbia Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Igor Stravinsky
I heard this the first time in Paris, conducted by Montu.
Chicago Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Sir Georg Solti
Bartuk is very close to me, not only because he is a Hungarian, but because he is a great composer, And because of this very tragic life
The keepsakes
The book
Endre Ady
I wrote a lot of songs on his poems, and I still would like to write more.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Could you endure loneliness?
I can try.
Presenter asks
Was there a lot of music in the house [when you were growing up]?
Yes, I was, because my mother was a pianist. She was a pupil of Professor Turman, who was a pupil of Liszt. And so I heard the whole list repertoire that she had to play ... and I grew up partly with that
Presenter asks
Why did you go to Germany [to study]?
My father had a very large estate in Upper Hungary, and his idea was that I will take that one day over naturally. and I should become a chemist. And I did not want to become a chemist. ... But if I thought if I go to Leipzig, because after all the Leipzig Conservatory was very famous, then I am on my own. I can do whatever I want.
The recording
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Speaker 1
Hello, I'm Kirstie Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs Archive. For rights reasons we've had to shorten the music. The programme was originally broadcast in nineteen eighty four, and the presenter was Roy Plumley.
Presenter
Our castaway this week is the composer Miklos Rozer, probably principally known for the many film scores he wrote in the great days of Hollywood.
Presenter
mister Roger, we are dumping you, unsympathetically, on a desert island. Could you endure loneliness? I can try. Would eight discs help?
Presenter
I think so. Eighty would be better, of course. Did you have any plan?
Miklos Rozsa
Yeah.
Presenter
And then choosing.
Miklos Rozsa
Uh
Presenter
This is facetious.
Miklos Rozsa
Well, facetiously I would say eight works of mine, but that w wouldn't have been true because I never listened to my own records.
Presenter
Yeah.
Miklos Rozsa
Uh no, I never do. Because uh I have over fifty records and when I hear them again I said, Why didn't I do it this way? Why is it so fast? Why this? Why that? So I'd rather not listen. What's the first one you've chosen? The first I've chosen is a Chaconne by Bach. Why? Now I started out as a violinist. I started to play the violin when I was five.
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When I was seven I played in public, and I grew up with a violin. Later I wrote two violin concerto, one for Heifitz.
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and he definitely played better the violin than I did.
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But the chargon was one of the pieces that impressed me most. I think it is the greatest violin music.
Miklos Rozsa
And I chose a recording by Adolf Busch, not only because he's a great violinist, but I heard him in Leipzig. I studied in Leipzig at the conservatory, you see, when I was eighteen, I was born in Budapest and went to Leipzig. And I heard Busch playing it in the Gevand House in a solo evening and I was tremendously impressed.
Presenter
Adolphe Busch playing The Bach Shacon, BWV 1004.
Presenter
Now you began to play the violin when you were five.
Presenter
Was there a lot of music in the house?
Miklos Rozsa
Yes, I was, because my mother was a pianist.
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She was a pupil of Professor Turman, who was a pupil of Liszt.
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And so I heard the whole list repertoire that she had to play not only the rhapsodies, naturally, but all the consolations and so on.
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and I grew up partly with that,
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And I had an uncle who was a violinist, the first violinist in the opera. Actually, he was a colleague of Aunt Aldoverati's father.
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And I became a pupil of Anta Dorati's father and studied chamber music with him. I told you talk to me.
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Oh yes, I could read music with five. And I went to school with six. So by that time I could read music but couldn't read
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Normal writing.
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You don't
Presenter
Tell us you went to study in Leipzig. Why did you go to Germany?
Miklos Rozsa
Well
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Very difficult to say.
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My father had a very large estate in Upper Hungary, and his idea was that I will take that one day over naturally.
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and I should become a chemist.
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And I did not want to become a chemist.
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However, the question was, if I stay in Budapest after finishing school, I would have to go to the university and study chemistry.
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and no music, because he explained to me you can't make a living with composition, and how right he was!
Speaker 1
He was.
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But if I thought if I go to Leipzig, because after all the Leipzig Conservatory was very famous, then I am on my own. I can do whatever I want. However, I must say I was honest. I went to Leipzig and immaturated in chemistry and in musicology. That he allowed. That was, you know, a science that was perfectly all right, nothing to do with compositions.
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And I went in every morning eight o'clock to the laboratory in a white gown, you know, and worked there. And I had to pass a great building and on the building it says Breitkopf and Hertel. This was a very old publishing firm, probably the oldest in Germany. And I thought, Breitkopf and Hertel, maybe one day they will publish my music.
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But I had to go to chemistry and I got analysis to make.
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And I came up to the sixteenth analysis, and that I couldn't solve.
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And there was an assistant, Doctor Meyer.
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And when I came towards him, he only shook his hand. He said, No, it's not right I went back and poor that, nothing came out. So I said, Enough I never went back. You gave up chemistry. I gave up chemistry. I went to the conservatory. I was accepted. I came home. I told my father honestly.
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He wrote a letter to my professor, who was Hermann Grabner, a pupil and successor of Max Reger, and he wrote back a letter that if anybody has the right to study composition, it's your son, and that did it.
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Let's have your second record. What's that to be? When I was in Leipzig, I wrote everything, of course, and I had to write a motette. It was a Benedictus.
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and I showed it to, or my professor showed it, to, Carl Straubi, who was the successor of Johann Sebastian Bach, of Church of Saint Thomas.
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And I went to see him, and he said it's very good music, but it's completely unsingable.
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And I said, But what shall I do? said You come to my choir in a Gevant House. We meet every Thursday.
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and you'll sing. I said, But I have no voice. I said, Who cares about your voice? But you will be sitting there. I did that for three years, and I learnt a repertoire and I wrote
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A lot of choral music, some of them was even performed in the B B C two years ago.
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which is singable now.
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And I sang all the great concerts, but sang again in quotations. I just opened my mouth and followed the music.
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The ninth symphony by Beethoven twice with Vortwingler and once with Bruno Walter, and these were memories I shall never forget.
Miklos Rozsa
Apart from everything, I think the Ninth Symphony is the greatest music ever composed, especially the first movement, but the last movement is just incredible.
Speaker 4
Uh
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It's one of the greatest achievements of human mind.
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So I choose the last movement of the ninth symphony by Beethoven.
Speaker 4
I don't know, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna sleep out of this.
Presenter
Part of the last movement of the Beethoven Ninth Symphony, Furtwengler conducting the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra.
Presenter
Your first composition was
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Published while you were still a student.
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And actually in the first performance at the Conservatory, of course, I played the violo. I must tell you, a worse performance couldn't have been done on the violo than mine. When you graduated, what did you do? Did you stay in Germany?
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I stayed in Germany until nineteen thirty one.
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when I went to Paris and gave a concert.
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and the concert was in the Ecole Normale de Musique.
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And there were many people, like Arthur Honeguer, and many musicians.
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And it was a tremendous success because I got three, four columns in the papers the next day, C'est l'homme de jour.
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And I always said it's c'est le plat de jourve. The man of the day or the dish of the day. That's right.
Presenter
And that's right.
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So I
Presenter
I thought this is it. I stayed in Paris. Now, to earn a living, I believe for a time you wrote some pop songs to be played in cinema intervals.
Miklos Rozsa
Yes, under a Sudani.
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I was terribly ashamed of that, but that's all I could do. I didn't want to put my own name on it, of course, because b at that time Monteau was playing my music in Paris, and it would have been impossible that you go to a a Monteaux concert and you hear my a music of mine or to a chamber music concert and there was a fox throat written by Miklos Rosso. So I chose a name Nick Tomei. I don't know how I chose it, but it was idiotic enough not to resemble my own name. Let's have your third record, what Fruit Bee.
Miklos Rozsa
Well, I was very fond of the music of Brahms and quite agreed with Billow, who said when he had heard the first symphony by Brahms, that this is the tenth symphony by Beethoven. It is just as great.
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And
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Bruno Walter became a very close friend of mine. He played my music in Austria, in Holland, and finally in America and New York. So this performance is by Bruno Walter, who I think was one of the great conductors of our times.
Presenter
An excerpt from the fourth movement of the Brahms' first symphony in C minor, Bruno Walter conducting the New York Philharmonic Orchestra.
Miklos Rozsa
Quite soon you came to London? In nineteen thirty five I came to London. I was to write a ballet. There was a very good company, Markova in Darlin. Very good. Excellent company, excellent dancers.
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And there was a Lady Dera de Moroda and
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She wanted to do a Hungarian ballet called Hungaria.
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And what that Hungarian composer
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Now this is again one one of those things. I come to London and suddenly somebody was a Hungarian composer. That doesn't happen though every day. So I wrote this ballet based mostly on folk music, which suited me greatly, and actually that led me to the cinema.
Presenter
You'd got to know a clever young French director, uh Jacques Fider.
Miklos Rozsa
Yes. Jacques Feder I met in Paris, and his wife was Francoise Rosset, a very fine actress, and I knew them very well both, and one day he invited to his house, and I said,
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Why don't you improvise something? I said, Well, what?
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I've seen anything you like.
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I said, Why why don't you give me a theme?
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So he gave me a theme, a dramatic theme, the city is in uproar, the people are running around, and so on.
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So I sat down to the piano and played a city in uproar, and he said, Fine, that's all I wanted to know.
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Nothing happened, Erz.
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And none?
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A year later I read in the papers that he is in London.
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He stayed at the splendid hotel on Greene Park. He's not there anymore.
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And I called him and he said, This is wonderful.
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Could you come right away to the hotel because I am in great trouble.
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So I ran over to the hotel in a taxi, and said, What's the trouble? said these idiots don't understand my French, and my English is not good enough. I want to have my laundry by tomorrow morning.
Miklos Rozsa
Could you explain this? Well, I did. So he said, Now we go out for dinner. I said, I'm sorry I can't go for dinner,'cause I have to go to my ballet. Oh, he wrote a ballet, he said.
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I said, yes, it's just came back from Glasgow. It's playing at the Duke of York Theatre, and I have to go there to see in what shape it is.
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Can I go with you? Of course. So he came and he was enchanted. He just loved it. He said, This is it and now we go out to celebrate. I didn't do celebrate what, but we went to Koalino's.
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And he ordered champagne? I don't drink.
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He drank one bottle, he ordered a second bottle, and as every gulp went down his evaluation of me as a composer went up.
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At the end I was the greatest composer ever.
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Written any music.
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But I thought, That's fine. He'll forget it back to morrow.
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I took him home to his hotel, and he said, Tomorrow Francoise is coming, my wife.
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And you come to lunch.
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I'll call you at ten o'clock.
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I was sure he'd forget it. He didn't. He called me at ten o'clock.
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And he said, Francoise, here we expect you at one o'clock.
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So I was in his hotel one o'clock,
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And we waited one, one thirty, two, two thirty, still no lunch.
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And I said, She's late, but she's coming. And she came, a lady I didn't know, very elegant, with a tremendous hat, and a gentleman, her husband. And they were introduced as mister and misses Sebur, S I E B E R.
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So misses Sieber sat on my right at the table, and Jacques Feder on my left.
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Suddenly she turned to me and said, Is my song ready?
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I said, What's wrong?
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I said, Monsieur Feder told me that you are going to write the music for our film. In the meantime I felt that Feder is pushing my left side. I said, Well, the song is not quite ready, but I am working on it. And I turned to Feder in a sotto voce whisper. I said, Who is she?
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And he whispered back
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You idiot.
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Marl
Presenter
Benedit.
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D
Presenter
No, she was.
Presenter
And you were supposed to be doing a song for her that nobody had told you.
Miklos Rozsa
No.
Presenter
And that was your first piece of film writing in that song.
Miklos Rozsa
That's right. That was not without armor, with robots with Marlon D3.
Presenter
But don't
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Yeah.
Miklos Rozsa
Yeah.
Presenter
Well, there we are. We've reached the point of your first film composition. Let's have your fourth record.
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I knew very little of Le Bussy before I went to Paris.
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But suddenly a new world opened up to me, which is French Impressionism.
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And I chose Lame.
Presenter
An excerpt from the Dialogue Between Wind and Sea from De Bucy's La Mer, the Philadelphia Orchestra conducted by Toscanini.
Presenter
You wrote that song for Marlena Dietrich. You began to work quite a lot with the studio that made that film, the Corder Studio, Alexander Corder.
Miklos Rozsa
Yes. I did about ten in England and then four in America. The first one was Knight Without Armour, which he liked. I didn't meet him until it was finished.
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And he came to me and said, I like your music, you're going to work for me.
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What took you to Hollywood? Alexander Gordon.
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We started the Thifu Baghdad here in
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London, nineteen thirty nine, summer thirty nine.
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And suddenly on september third,
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Something unpleasant happened, and there was no more money to follow with the film.
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We recorded as much music as we could.
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And Alex went to America. He was a member of the United Artists Corporation.
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and came back and said United Artists is putting up money in America to finish the film.
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And I have to take over the key man. You're one of'em.
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And actually I asked how long will I go for? Said two, three months. Now I am there since forty-four years.
Presenter
Well, it was very difficult to get back, I presume, the war being on. Does the composer conduct?
Miklos Rozsa
Yeah.
Presenter
The recording session.
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Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
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Well, in England I did not.
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But I was studying conducting in England. I must say I was very grateful that I had this idea.
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I went to Trinity College because in Leipzig I didn't study any conducting. I was composing. I I was not interested. I said there's somebody else can do that.
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However, here I thought this is about time that I studied. I went to Trinity College of Music, a Mandeville Place.
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and I was a pupil of Kennedy Scott.
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He was a great choral director. For one year
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And then when that finished I was a pupil of John Fry who conducted the orchestra, and I had to conduct the school orchestra too, mostly my own compositions to start with, but then I conducted both Elgar symphonies.
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I conducted the planets and anything you know which which was spectacular and you can learn from. From then on I conducted every score of mine.
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Record number five.
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I was in Paris when I first saw Daphnis and Cloa.
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I first heard the music Monteu conducting who gave the first performance as well in nineteen twelve.
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And then I heard him many times
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And it of course is is a splendor of orchestration, of colour and imagination.
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And it's I think it's a great, great work. Let's hear it.
Presenter
The closing passage of Ravel's Daphnis and Chloe, the London Symphony Orchestra conducted by Monteur, and there's also the choir of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden.
Presenter
Looking down the long list of about a hundred and twenty movies, you seem to have had spells of of being, as it were, type cast as a musician. You you had a kind of Oriental jungle phase to start with. That was
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And the
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The thief of Baghdad And they're dropping room.
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The four feathers before all Oriental subject matters.
Presenter
And
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Some first rate psychological thrillers you did quite a second. Double indemnity, I remember double indemnity and so on. About ten.
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And I
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You were a pioneer in the use of electronic music and philosophy.
Miklos Rozsa
Yes, as a matter of fact I was the first one who used the electronic music, which was the phtalamine. Yes. Which was hardly known th at that time. That was a French invention, wasn't it? It was no, it was a Russian invention.
Presenter
Notion
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Teremin was a Russian physicist and he came to the West in nineteen twenty two.
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and played his instrument everywhere, in England, in Paris, in America,
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And it was a fantastic instrument.
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Quite out of this world sound.
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And finally I came to spellbound where mister Hitchcock said, I want a new sound I said Telemin.
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And Mr. Selzing, who was a producer, said, Is that an Italian dish?
Presenter
Yeah.
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Grave okay.
Presenter
But
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The next phase of your music, you became uh an authority on the music for historical epics. You did Bern Hove, for example, which must be.
Miklos Rozsa
Yes, well that is complaining. There was another episode in my life and that was the gangster film, to the film Noir. And actually I became the Al Caponi of Hollywood Music.
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And then came finally, in nineteen fifty, the first historical, or shall we say, bibliohistorical film, Vovadis.
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Now whether I succeeded or not is not for me to say, but I tried to recreate the music of the first century.
Presenter
How many
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The Oscars did you win? Three. Three. For which films?
Miklos Rozsa
The first was for spellbound. I must say in brackets that Mr. Hitchcock was nominated, but he did not get an award, so he didn't send me a telegram to congratulate me. The second was which is indicative for my book, A Double Life, which was a very good film, a psychological film again, with Ronald Coleman.
Speaker 1
It's heavy.
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and the third one was Ben Hur. But
Presenter
Now you took the title, The Double Life. You pinched the title of that wrong. I did pinch it, but I left the A out.
Miklos Rozsa
I did
Presenter
Because it is very applicable to your own professional career. That's right. Let's break off your sixth record.
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I was in London and wrote the music for the V I Piece with Elizabeth Taylor and Burton.
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And the director was Anthony Asquith, a very fine gentleman. And one day he said, I'm going to bring you to morrow something. And he brought me the score, not the record, the score.
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of Britain's War Aquium.
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Well, I didn't sleep all night. I was reading that score and I said, When is it going to be recorded? And he said, Very soon.
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Apparently he was a friend of Britain.
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And finally I got the record too and I was
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Enchanted.
Presenter
Part of the Die's Eire from Benjamin Britton's War Requiem.
Presenter
Like a recording conducted by the composer. Of your many shall I use the word serious but of your many compositions written entirely for yourself, which are your favourites? Which ones do you like?
Miklos Rozsa
Well, they all belong to a certain period, and my biggest success was theme variations and finale.
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The first performance was given by Charles Munch, then Bruno Walter gave it all over the world,
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And actually Leonard Bernstein made his debut with this work, and it was played every about a hundred and fifty performances.
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And this is of course very close to me. But then I wrote five concerti, one for Heifitz, one for Pietigowski and Heifetz, one for American pianist Leonard Penario, then for Jano Starko, or cello concerto, and I just had the first performance of my Violo concerto in Pittsburgh.
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which I wrote for Pinkazuckerman and was conducted by Andrei Previn.
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We've got to your seventh record.
Presenter
God watchful that be.
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Record number seven is Stravinsky's saccudi prentum, the rite of spring.
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I heard this the first time in Paris, conducted by Montu.
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But I have to tell you a story.
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that I was in London in nineteen sixty three, may twenty ninth, which was the fiftieth anniversary of the date when Montu conducted the same work
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In Paris, in the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées, where there was a tremendous scandal. A riot, almost a riot.
Speaker 1
Mm-hmm.
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And Stravinsky jumped out of the window to save his neck.
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And now fifty years have gone, and in Albert Roll Monteau was about eighty five or eighty six.
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conducting this work. Stravinsky was sitting in a box with his wife.
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And this old gentleman, Monteur, came out and I was afraid what what is going to happen, because he didn't look that he's going to live through the performance. Well, it was a fantastic performance. The whole audience jumped up, there was a standing ovation, the orchestra jumped up and everybody started Stravinsky, Stravinsky.
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And there in a box this old gentleman bowed.
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They wanted him on the podium, but he couldn't walk any more.
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And everybody was standing, everybody was shouting, Stovinsky took bows.
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But no Monteaux. Monteaux disappeared.
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Suddenly, about ten minutes later, he came into the box. You know how large Albert Hall is. He walked around to came into the box of Sarvinsky. The two old men embraced each other and everybody cried. I cried too. It was the most touching experience of my life. Let's hear the end, the Don Sacral from the Rite of Spring.
Presenter
The closing passage of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, the Columbia Symphony Orchestra conducted by the composer himself.
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We've put you on this island.
Presenter
We'd give you a certain amount of help to make a hut and so forth, but could you look after yourself? Can you cook? Ever done any fishing?
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But none of his fish.
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No, I'm completely impractical. The only thing I can do is write music, nothing else.
Presenter
So we're only
Presenter
I don't know what you're going to write music. On or with, except we are going to give you a luxury. Would that be the most important thing? Would you like some manuscript paper? Yes, I would say so. And plenty of pens and ink. Yes, please. All right.
Presenter
But I'm a little bit worried about uh how you're going to manage.
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Fish probably you can catch with your hands.
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Your last record.
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The last record is
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The concerto for orchestra by Bailabarto.
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Bartuk is very close to me, not only because he is a Hungarian,
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but because he is a great composer,
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And because of this very tragic life, he lived his last five years of his life in America. Who is conducting this recording? This is a friend of mine, very close friend of mine who has done much of my music and I admire him enormously, Sir George Shorty.
Presenter
An excerpt from Bartock's Concerto for Orchestra, Sir George Shelte conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.
Presenter
If you could take just one of the eight discs you've played us, mister Roger, which would it be?
Miklos Rozsa
Well, I think the beat of them, because the ninth symphony for me is the beginning and the end of music.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
You told us you're one luxury. You're allowed one book. You already have the Bible and the complete works of Shakespeare. Yes. One book.
Miklos Rozsa
Well, there I have to ask your forgiveness because I'm going to ask for a Hungarian book. That's all right, that's fine. What is the title?
Presenter
Yeah.
Miklos Rozsa
Hungarian and also in English? Well, I would like to have the collected poems of a great Hungarian poet, probably the greatest of this century, but unfortunately poetry cannot be translated.
Miklos Rozsa
His name is Adi, A D Y, Andra Addy, and he influenced me very much in my youth. I wrote a lot of songs on his poems, and I still would like to write more.
Presenter
Uh
Miklos Rozsa
Right.
Presenter
The Hungarian Poems of Adi.
Presenter
And thank you, Niklaus Roger, for letting us hear your Desert Island Discs. Thank you so much to ask me here. Goodbye, everyone.
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Presenter asks
When you graduated, what did you do? Did you stay in Germany?
I stayed in Germany until nineteen thirty one. when I went to Paris and gave a concert.
Presenter asks
To earn a living, I believe for a time you wrote some pop songs to be played in cinema intervals?
Yes, under a Sudani. I was terribly ashamed of that, but that's all I could do. I didn't want to put my own name on it, of course, because b at that time Monteau was playing my music in Paris, and it would have been impossible that you go to a a Monteaux concert and you hear my a music of mine or to a chamber music concert and there was a fox throat written by Miklos Rosso. So I chose a name Nick Tomei.
Presenter asks
What took you to Hollywood?
Alexander Gordon. We started the Thifu Baghdad here in London, nineteen thirty nine, summer thirty nine. And suddenly on september third, Something unpleasant happened, and there was no more money to follow with the film. ... And Alex went to America. ... and came back and said United Artists is putting up money in America to finish the film. And I have to take over the key man. You're one of'em. And actually I asked how long will I go for? Said two, three months. Now I am there since forty-four years.
“facetiously I would say eight works of mine, but that w wouldn't have been true because I never listened to my own records. ... Because uh I have over fifty records and when I hear them again I said, Why didn't I do it this way? Why is it so fast? Why this? Why that? So I'd rather not listen.”
“I'm completely impractical. The only thing I can do is write music, nothing else.”
“the beat of them, because the ninth symphony for me is the beginning and the end of music.”