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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
Member of the British royal family by marriage to Prince Michael of Kent.
Eight records
Cello Concerto in B minor, Op. 104: I. Allegro
Mstislav Rostropovich, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Karajan
I'm born in Bohemia and Dvorak of course is a Czech. And every person from my part of the world is is full of Welt Schmerz and and when I'm really, really depressed I play this because it takes me as deeply and as makes me as depressed as I possibly can and then I can only go up, I feel, after this. And it reminds me of my grandmother.
in honor of my mamma, not that she needs to be remembered, but a chardash from Fledermaus, because it'll be representative of the passion in my life, tempered, of course, by the sense of the Capricorn.
An undermilk wood was given to me when I was quite young in Sydney. And I didn't understand I didn't even know where Wales was, let alone anything about Dylan Thomas. But it taught me the beginnings of my love of English literature.
Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67: I. Allegro con brio
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Carlos Kleiber
This is uh largely due to my brother, who was my greatest musical influence, and probably the dearest, sweetest person other than my husband that I know, and he gave me this before I left for Mozambique. And I played da da da da throughout the jungle, and my father would scream that it would frighten away the buffalo and the elephants, but I didn't care, and it did.
Johann Strauss Orchestra of Vienna conducted by Willi Boskovsky
this is the Gold and Silver Waltz by Lehar with which we opened our wedding ball in Vienna.
Vienna taught me to love opera. I had a very small apartment around the corner from the opera house. ... And Itosuka is such a powerful love story. And as a very typical Central European, I like a good tragedy.
Symphony No. 5 in C-sharp minor: IV. Adagietto
Chicago Symphony Orchestra conducted by Georg Solti
Venice has been a favourite bolt hole of my husband and mine. We were not actually there on our honeymoon we were in India and in Iran. But we very soon afterwards went to Venice, and we go there as often as we can, and so this will remind me of our very happy times in Venice.
Violin Concerto No. 3 in G major, K. 216Favourite
Anne-Sophie Mutter, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Karajan
This happened to get stuck in our tape deck at our house in the country, and for about a month we heard nothing else but this tape. So I shall be reminded of our beautiful house and never of course forget our children, but I shall be reminded of the horses, the goats, the dogs, the cats, and all the sundry animals, the Cotswolds, hunting and the very private part of our lives.
The keepsakes
The book
Herodotus
I'm going to ask for the Histories of Herodotus, because I can read him again and again. ... He likes ... delicious little details which I absolutely love.
The luxury
In conversation
Presenter asks
Could you endure loneliness?
Yes. I I think without any trouble at all. I don't think I get lonely. I I've spent a lot of time on my own in Africa and I like to be alone. I like my own company.
Presenter asks
How much does music mean to you?
Well, a very great deal at certain times of the day. I like silence. I like to be quiet at some times. In Africa particularly, I learnt that I could only have music in the evenings, because that was the only time I could get the battery out of the lorry, so that I could play my my music then.
Presenter asks
When your parents split up, you stayed with your mother. Why [did she go to] Australia?
The recording
Timestamps play the recording from that turn
Speaker 3
Hello, I'm Kirstie Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs Archive. For rights reasons we've had to shorten the music. The programme was originally broadcast in nineteen eighty four, and the presenter was Roy Plumley.
Presenter
I am happy to say that our castaway this week is Her Royal Highness Princess Michael of Kent.
Presenter
We're very glad to welcome you to our island, ma'am. Could you endure loneliness?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes. I I think without any trouble at all.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I don't think I get lonely. I I've spent a lot of time on my own in Africa and I like to be alone. I like my own company.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I have a cattle tour aunt.
Presenter
But
Presenter
Well, cats we'll refer to later. Let's leave them out for the moment. How much does music mean to you?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Well, a very great deal at certain times of the day. I like silence. I like to be quiet at some times.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
In Africa particularly, I learnt that I could only have music in the evenings, because that was the only time I could get the battery out of the lorry, so that I could play my my music then. So during the day I was totally in peace and quiet with sort of animal noises, bird song.
Presenter
Right. Now that is playing recorded music. Do you make music? Have you studied it? Do you play an instrument?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, I do actually. I play the guitar. Well, I've studied the classical guitar many years ago. I have a younger brother who's a hornist. He plays the the horn.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
and an older brother who wished that he'd been a pianist, but he's a scientist instead. And I don't play enough really any more, because it takes time and practice to play as well as you would like to play.
Presenter
But when you were young there was family music, the best kind of music.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Always, always, always, always terrible arguments between my mother and my brother about the speed of some movement or some concerto. Terrible mathematical arguments about music. I'm I'm emotional about music. I'm passionate about music. Um not mathematical about it.
Presenter
You have this meagre ration of eight disks. You do find it very hard to choose. These are the eight that may have to last a long, long time.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Pessimist.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, of course. Everyone finds it very hard to choose eight discs, but you originally asked me about four years ago to do this show, and at the time it was thought perhaps as no one had done it in the family that it mightn't be quite the moment. And so ever since then I've been making lists.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And on the whole they have remained the same.
Presenter
What's the first one on the list?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
It's Dvorak's cello concerto and the entry of the cello, because I'm born in Bohemia and Dvorak of course is a Czech.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And every person from my part of the world is is full of Welt Schmerz and and when I'm really, really depressed I play this because it takes me as deeply and as makes me as depressed as I possibly can and then I can only go up, I feel, after this. And it reminds me of my grandmother.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
who was my model in all things, and a very beautiful and grand princess and whenever life is tough and the going is difficult, I think of her, and so Dworjak will remind me of her.
Presenter
Part of the Vorschak cello concerto in B minor.
Presenter
Rostopovich with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Carien.
Presenter
Now you began life as Mary Christine von Reidnitz and you were born, as you said, in Czechoslovakia.
Presenter
Your father, Baron von Reibinist, where was he from?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
He's from Salira.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And he was so old that as far as he was concerned he was from a previous incarnation when Silesia was still part of the Austro Hungarian Empire. In fact, it's now Poland and these borders change rather rapidly, so one has to try to keep up with that. But my father wasn't around a terribly long time.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
and I was totally brought up by my mother's family.
Presenter
Now she a Hungarian countess.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes.
Presenter
How many children were there?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
My older brother, one and a half years older than myself, and much, much later, when my mother remarried,
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I have a younger brother whose father's Polish, who's sort of twelve years younger than I am, who's a Hornist.
Presenter
Now sadly, when your parents split up, you stayed with your mother. She went to Australia. Why Australia?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Well, my mother was not only a historian by training, but she was also a great skier and she skied in the Thirty Six Olympics and at that time the only other people who seemed to be skiing were the British. So she had a lot of English friends who said after the war, you know, Austria's such a mess, why don't you come out to Australia and bring your two small children for a few years till Europe settles down a little bit? And she thought this was a good idea and they assured her there was very good skiing in Australia and so that's where we went.
Presenter
At that time, as a small child, could you understand English?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, because I had an English governess, but I was a little bit the wall is white, the grass is green. I was trying, I was trying.
Presenter
Whereabouts in Australia did you settle?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
He went to Sydney.
Presenter
And you went to school there?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And you rented it.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I went to school there with a sacrific girl.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
and beautiful, beautiful city, Sydney. And I hadn't been there for some twenty years when my husband and I went there two years ago, and it had changed so that I didn't recognize it at all.
Presenter
What were you best at at school?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Think English literature and history, really. I always wanted to do everything that I did as well as I possibly can. That's very Capricorn, I suppose so that I didn't have any particular ambition, I just wanted to do everything well. I think I wanted to be a historian, like my mother. From the beginning.
Presenter
Uh, when you left school, you left for Europe. That was to stay with your father?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
No. My father had a farm in Africa, and I went to Africa. I was a little bit too young for university, and I thought, well, it's time to go and meet the father who I hadn't met before.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
So that was a a terrible shock in itself.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
to meet a very much older person who could have been my grandfather. But it was also an introduction to Africa, and Africa became a great love of my life.
Speaker 4
Hmm.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Loved going on safari, hated killing the animals, never shot at them at all, but did everything I could, like playing very loud music, to stop them being shot at.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
But I loved being in the jungle in Africa.
Presenter
And from Africa you went to Austria.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Back to Austria, yes, back to visit all the the relatives and to meet all the cousins about whom I knew every little detail, because that was the role of every Central European, to know everything about one another's relatives, unlike here where you don't n even know your first cousin sometimes.
Speaker 4
This is sadly true.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And we we we know our fourth cousins very, very well indeed. And many of them had like I had been brought up elsewhere and we came back from our various countries of temporary exile to meet one another and hopefully marry and settle down in Austria.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And so we exchanged many stories and exchanged languages and I discovered after a little while that this was not what I wanted, to settle in Austria, but to learn instead interior design.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And so I came to England for that reason, because there wasn't such a study in Austria. At the time, it was thought that if your house had been good enough for your grandmother to live in, then it was good enough for you to live in, why should you wish to do anything quite so nouvea rich as to do it up?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
in a new modern way. And my mamma had great English friends from her skiing days.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And one of them was a very excellent interior designer who decided to, out of her great generosity, take me on.
Presenter
As Napoleon
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Prentice
Presenter
So we've got you to England. This seems the point where we should have your second record.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Well perhaps my second record
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
in honor of my mamma, not that she needs to be remembered, but a chardash from Fledermaus, because it'll be representative of the passion in my life, tempered, of course, by the sense of the Capricorn.
Speaker 4
I'm not sure if I can do it.
Presenter
The Chardas from Fledermaus, sung by Annalise Rottenberger.
Presenter
So you came to London to study interior design. You studied for a while at the Victoria and Ablett Museum.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
That was a little bit later. First of all, I was apprenticed, interior decorated, and I learnt everything that an interior designer should know in order to correct her workmen.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
and her builders. So I did a bit of carpentry. Um I certainly know how to mix paints and how to paint and so on and so forth, before I started at Victorian Island.
Presenter
At one point you had a spell in an advertising agency. Was that in the studio?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
This was really a a very brief spell because I felt that at this point that I wanted to know how to run my own business. And by this time I felt I'd done enough apprenticeship and that in in order to run my own business I had to know something about how an office worked.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And so I went to work in an office to learn how an office worked. I'm afraid I was not at all gifted, but I learnt enough to know how to tell others to work for me. I think that's what it's all about.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
So then you set up your own firm.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I did.
Presenter
And did the commissions come in?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Stick and fast.
Presenter
Vapor.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I did very well. I made lots of money. I was very successful.
Presenter
Let's have your third record.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
My third record is The Beginning of Undermilk Wood.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
An undermilk wood was given to me when I was quite young in Sydney.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And I didn't understand I didn't even know where Wales was, let alone anything about Dylan Thomas. But it taught me the beginnings of my love of English literature.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And I think if we we have the beginning, it'll set me off because I think I know the rest by heart.
Speaker 4
It is spring moonless night in the small town.
Speaker 4
Starless and Bible-blessed.
Speaker 4
The cobble streets silent and the hunched quarters and rabbits wood limping invisible down to the slow-black, slow-black, crow-black fishing-boat bobbing sea.
Presenter
The opening lines of Under Milkwood spoken by the author Dylan Thomas.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
There's a lovely character in Unimote Cord called misses Ogmore Pritchard, and she's incredibly tidy and clean.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And she really is unbearably untidy and clean and and and I terrorise my husband when he comes in sometimes from shooting and there's awful dead birds all over the hall and he calls me Mrs Ogmore Pritchard and and then he sort of says in an awful sarcastic voice quotes from it and Before you let the sun in, mind he wipes his feet
Presenter
Now while you were working in London you married an English businessman, but it didn't work out and the marriage was annulled. But this led to problems later when you and Prince Michael of Kent fell in love and wanted to marry.
Presenter
You were a Roman Catholic and a divorcee, and uh a church wedding at that time wasn't possible.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Well, we thought it would be possible. It certainly would have been possible in the Catholic Church, because after all my first marriage had been annulled by Pope Paul the Sixth. The problem arose in that Prince Michael could not have Catholic children.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
This was in fact, after the Second Vatican Council, no longer a great obstacle, but there were problems of communication.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
between the English Catholic Church. And it was going to take a little bit longer than the one month of engagement that we allowed ourselves to explain this to the English Catholics, who were up in arms thinking
Presenter
To explore
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
that because our children could be Anglican, why was it that they felt they had been under some pressure to have Catholic children? In fact, this situation has never changed. Our marriage was convalidated recently, as you know.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And our children are very much remaining Anglican, and I very much wish to remain and shall remain a Catholic.
Presenter
You and Prince Michael attend both Anglican and Roman Catholic services.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
On alternate Sundays
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And he comes with me, and I go with him.
Presenter
Within the
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
We're very ecumenical.
Presenter
Well, that sounds a splendid arrangement. Let's get back to music. Watch number four.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Record number four is Beethoven's fifth. This is uh largely due to my brother, who was my greatest musical influence, and probably the dearest, sweetest person other than my husband that I know, and he gave me this before I left for Mozambique.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And I played da da da da throughout the jungle, and my father would scream that it would frighten away the buffalo and the elephants, but I didn't care, and it did.
Presenter
The opening of the Beethoven Fifth Symphony
Presenter
Carlos Kleiber conducting the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra.
Presenter
Prince Michael is an ex-soldier and, like your mother, he won distinction in winter sports. He was British Bobslay Champion.
Presenter
He's also a rally driver and a horseman. How many of these sports interest you?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
You could offer me any money and I would not go down a bob sleigh. I think he feels a little bit the same way about hunting, but he does it out of love for me.
Presenter
But you like horses, you like ride.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I like horses, but I'm not very expert. I sort of
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
believe in having a good horse and heading for the biggest fence because that's the biggest thrill. But I also have the biggest spir
Presenter
No.
Presenter
But um he d he doesn't like the high fences as much as you do.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Um I don't think he likes horses anymore. Yeah.
Presenter
And of course you have many royal duties. I believe that between you you attend something like three hundred functions a year.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
News to me. I've never counted them up. But I believe you. If you say so, I believe you.
Presenter
All at your own expense, I believe.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Well, my husband was brought up to believe that you cannot um have the privilege without the obligation, and therefore he
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
fulfils what he sees as his obligation, and I, as his wife, follow him.
Presenter
It must sometimes be hard work. I remember an awards function where you had to stand for about an hour and a half, nobody provided a chair, and you were giving smiles and cheerful words to all the winners.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I remember that because I was wearing rather uncomfortable shoes. Um well, there we are. I mean, there are worse things. Yes. It would have been silly to get up and get down every time ev you know.
Presenter
Yeah, it's quite a bit.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Probably easier to stand.
Presenter
Is there any particular function you remember that really came unstuck?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Um too many to mention.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Usually when when I haven't been told I have to make a speech and um in the middle of lunch I sort of choke on whatever it is I'm eating because I'm making a speech at the end of it and I have to think about that.
Presenter
But you usually know what's going to happen.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Oh, yes, yes, yes, it's it's my own muddle if I don't, I assure you.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
My office is very very Yeah.
Presenter
Yes, you get mixed up in silly stunts. There was one where some man dressed up as a wolf and attacked you just to get newspaper published. I mean, that that kind of irresponsible behavior can't happen very often.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, but the letters one gets are so delicious that it almost makes it all right. I I never forget one particular letter I had after the the so-called wolf episode, which which was a lovely lady who wrote saying, quite honestly I wouldn't be upset if I were you, because for a married woman of your age to still be attractive to wolves is quite something in itself.
Presenter
Oh, Tommy.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Oh, Tommy.
Presenter
You must have a vast male.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, we do.
Presenter
All of which has to be answered, I suppose.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, yes it does. Our office is is is um very, very hard working and under a lot of pressure a lot of the time. Um, you know, incidents happen that mean more male, the birth of children, obviously.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
A sudden
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
A religious marriage, the tragic loss of a cat. I had over two thousand letters when my my cat disappeared.
Presenter
Really? You are a great cat lady. You you love cats.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I do. I love cats. I love dogs. I love all animals. Anything on four legs with fur on more or less qualifies. Um
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I do love cat.
Presenter
How many do you have at any given moment?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Um, I have nine at the moment.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
But only the Oriental three travel backwards and forwards to London with me. The Morgis tend to stay put in the country.
Presenter
I see.
Presenter
Let's have another record.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Record number five
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
is a waltz. Now this is the Gold and Silver Waltz by Lehar with which we opened our wedding ball in Vienna.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
It's always been said we only had a civil wedding in Vienna. The fact of the matter is that we were always going to have a civil wedding followed by a church wedding, because that is the law in Austria, as in most European countries.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And after our civil marriage, that evening we were to have a wedding ball, and the next day our religious marriage. Well, we missed out on the religious marriage, but we still had the ball. And we opened the ball with this waltz, and my husband said waltz and I said waltz and he thought one, two, three, one, two, three and I said, No, darling spin at quarter time.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And that was the last time that I have said follow me, I shall lead, because he's never let me do it again. And he's never quite got over the dizzying speed of it, but it started our adventure into our own life, so I'd like to remember.
Presenter
And that
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yeah.
Presenter
Dehaas gold and silver waltz, Villy Boskowski conducting the Johann Strauss Orchestra. Do you still find time to do some designing?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes or no. I do a certain amount of consulting still, which means being bossy and giving my opinions and what I like and don't like. Not as much as I'd like. I'm I'm a trustee of the Victorian Albert Museum.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And that gives me at least a little bit of time.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
to look at beautiful things. And the best part of being a trustee is that you're allowed to touch things. All museums say please do not touch and I can touch things and nobody can say a thing to me.
Presenter
Oh, you have a country house. Of course you worked on the interior of that.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yeah.
Presenter
It's an old house.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Uh
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
It's a very old house indeed. It's very old in that it's full of woodworm and crumbling and full of rot. Do you paint?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I do paint. I painted a lot more before I married. I seemed to have a lot more time for the children, you know. But during the month of January, when the ground is too frozen to hunt,
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And there's very little else happening. I paint. January is my painting month. And the light is rather beautiful.
Presenter
You mentioned your children. You have two. You have Lord Frederick Windsor.
Presenter
How old is he?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Is four?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And then I have uh my little Gabriella, who we call Ella, and she's two. They're both April babies.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
although he is Ares and she's uh Taurus.
Presenter
And your Capricorn.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Hello everyone, I'm going to have trouble with my Torres daughter, I'm told, but she's such a good little girl at this stage, I think not. She's the image, incidentally, of my mother-in-law at this age, as my sister-in-law tells me, anyway. So I I have hopes of a great beauty in the family.
Presenter
We got to record number six.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
We got to record number six, which is still in Vienna, because Vienna taught me to love opera. I had a very small apartment around the corner from the opera house.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
In the equivalent of what is Covent Garden in Vienna, it was over the flower market, so every morning I woke to the sounds of the flower cellars and the smell of the flowers.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And I didn't have television and I didn't have any other form of entertainment.
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And so when I was spare in the evening, which was quite often, I popped around the corner of the opera house, where the tickets were very, very cheap.
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and I could walk there in the snow sometimes. So this is an aria from Tosca. Not because Tosca is necessarily my favorite opera, but it's one of my favorites. I think we've got Di Stefano singing the aria.
Presenter
Yeah.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And Itosuka is such a powerful love story.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And as a very typical Central European, I like a good tragedy.
Presenter
Uh
Speaker 4
And my early sky
Speaker 4
We are
Speaker 4
By the way.
Presenter
An audio from the last act of Puccini's Tosca, sung by Giuseppe DiStefano.
Presenter
I don't know how you find time for all this, ma'am, but you're also writing a book. You're busy on an historical biography.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes, busy is at the moment not really the word. I started two and a half years ago.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
working on a biography of Elizabeth Stuart, better known as The Winter Queen.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Largely because I've always been fascinated by her, an English princess who became Queen of Bohemia, and there was a Bohemian who became an English princess. And also because once I started reading about her, I really became fascinated by her and was somewhat affronted that so many people didn't know that she was English, that they confuse her with Elizabeth Empress of Austria, and that she actually started, in effect, the Thirty Years' War. I'm afraid at the speed that my book is progressing, it's going to be my own little private Thirty Years' War and that it's going to take me 30 years to complete.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I'm I'm being a little slow.
Presenter
You've been researching in Heidelberg?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I've done all the research in Prague, Heidelberg and The Hague and I've started the writing, but I find just organizing my papers takes me hours. You know, and then the kittens come in and spill everything, and then the children come in and mess everything up again.
Presenter
We look forward to that.
Presenter
Let's have record number seven.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
You'll be waiting a very long time for that book. Record number seven is by Mahler, another bohemian, and I love a great deal of his music, but this is number five in C Sharp Minor, the fourth movement, The Adaggietto, which was chosen for a very beautiful film about Venice.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
This particular theme recurs again and again, and Venice has been a favourite bolt hole of my husband and mine. We were not actually there on our honeymoon we were in India and in Iran. But we very soon afterwards went to Venice, and we go there as often as we can, and so this will remind me of our very happy times in Venice.
Presenter
The adacciato from Mahler's Fifth Symphony in C Sharp minor, George Shelty conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.
Presenter
How resourceful would you be on a desert island? Could you build a hut?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Oh, yes.
Presenter
Have you done any fishing?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yes.
Presenter
I had a
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I've had a little fishing on the wire, a little salmon fishing. I don't know that I should have that sort of facility on this desert island.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
But I think I would fish quite well.
Presenter
Do you know the principles of it? And you can cultivate, obviously.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I'm a farmer's daughter.
Presenter
Sailing. Could you construct some kind of a craft, a raft, or whatever?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Now we're getting into very dangerous water here. Having launched Britain's challenge for the Americas' Cup, I really ought to say yes, yes, yes, I can say that. My husband assures me that I turn green in the bath because I'm seasick. I'm seasick looking at the water. I'm seasick thinking about the water. No, I'm going to stick on this island. I'm not going to venture forth.
Presenter
We'll do our very best to get you rescued very quickly.
Presenter
Your age.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I'm very happy on this island. I don't mind a bit if you leave me there for a while.
Presenter
Your last record, the last of the eight.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Now, my last of the eight I've come to Mozart.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Largely because I think all eight could have been Mozart.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I have chosen the violin concerto, better known as K two one six and G. With Karyan conducting, Karyan is a friend and someone I admire very much.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And this is one of his young proteges playing Ansofi Muta.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
This happened to get stuck in our tape deck at our house in the country, and for about a month we heard nothing else but this tape. So I shall be reminded of our beautiful house and never of course forget our children, but I shall be reminded of the horses, the goats, the dogs, the cats, and all the sundry animals, the Cotswolds, hunting and the very private part of our lives.
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The opening of Mozart's Violin Concerto No. three in G major.
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The Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Carrian and the soloist Ann Sophie Motte.
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If you could take only one disk of the eight you've chosen, which would it be?
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Well, I think that last one, the Mozart, with all the fond memories of my home and my happy family.
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You're allowed one luxury, any one object of no practical use whatever, that will give you pleasure on the island.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Now, I'm going to insist on this. I want to take a cat.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And it's got to be Oriental, and it's preferably pregnant.
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And it's got to be a
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I'm sorry, wait, wait.
Presenter
Oh here is conflict. No, it must be inanimate. If we look at the...
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
It must be.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
It's luxury, it's luxury. It's a total luxury, you've no idea what they cost me. They shred my carpets, they shred my curtains, my furniture is absolutely in pieces. This is a luxury of a of a limit that you cannot imagine.
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Go ahead.
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I would give you anything you want except a cat. It must be something inanimate. A statue of a cat. A sculptured cat.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
A statue of a cat, a sculptured cat.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
You don't understand you don't understand. There's there's method in my madness. This cat is not only going to be pregnant, but an Oriental cat is one hell of a hunter.
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A trade cap.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And they bring me little presents on the end of my bed and they're going to bring me little rabbits out of this desert island.
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Click and
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I am afraid we shall have to discuss this at some length afterwards. You have no luxury at the moment. But you do have one book apart from the Bible and the complete works of Shakespeare, which are already there.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
The moon.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Yeah.
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I know you haven't made me unhappy.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Huh?
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This is just
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I'm having a cap.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Now, you didn't notice that I had a little cat in my pocket when I was rescued and landed on this desert island. You didn't see it, you didn't notice it. No, it was very quiet, it was very small.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
My book.
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Yes.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Um when my children go to boarding school, which happens at an unhealthy early age, I think in England, it's very difficult for your peer and girl to let her children go to boarding school quite so young. However, when they do, and I'm suddenly left without any noise and clamour in my life, I'm going to go to university and take a degree in history.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
And therefore it has to be a history book.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
I might as well get ready on this design for this time. So when I thought about all the history books that I could take, it had to be one that I could read again and again and again.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
So at the risk of sounding very erudite, I'm going to ask for the Histories of Herodotus, because I can read him again and again.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
He he likes details. He likes lots of frivolous details. While he's describing a battle, he will tell you about the colour of the shields and the way they do their hair and and and what how they tied up their boots and all these sort of delicious little details which I absolutely love and which waste so much of my time when I'm trying to write my own history.
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All right. You shall have the histories of Herodotus, and give you all the facility for writing another book when you come back.
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And thank you, Your Royal Highness, for letting us hear your Desert Island Disc.
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
Thank you very much.
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Goodbye, everyone.
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Well, my mother was not only a historian by training, but she was also a great skier and she skied in the Thirty Six Olympics and at that time the only other people who seemed to be skiing were the British. So she had a lot of English friends who said after the war, you know, Austria's such a mess, why don't you come out to Australia and bring your two small children for a few years till Europe settles down a little bit? And she thought this was a good idea and they assured her there was very good skiing in Australia and so that's where we went.
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When you left school, you left for Europe. That was to stay with your father?
No. My father had a farm in Africa, and I went to Africa. I was a little bit too young for university, and I thought, well, it's time to go and meet the father who I hadn't met before. So that was a a terrible shock in itself. to meet a very much older person who could have been my grandfather. But it was also an introduction to Africa, and Africa became a great love of my life.
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You were a Roman Catholic and a divorcee, and a church wedding at that time wasn't possible [when you married Prince Michael of Kent]?
Well, we thought it would be possible. It certainly would have been possible in the Catholic Church, because after all my first marriage had been annulled by Pope Paul the Sixth. The problem arose in that Prince Michael could not have Catholic children. ... Our marriage was convalidated recently, as you know. And our children are very much remaining Anglican, and I very much wish to remain and shall remain a Catholic.
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How resourceful would you be on a desert island? Could you build a hut?
Oh, yes.
“I'm emotional about music. I'm passionate about music. Um not mathematical about it.”
“I always wanted to do everything that I did as well as I possibly can. That's very Capricorn, I suppose so that I didn't have any particular ambition, I just wanted to do everything well.”
“I'm having a cap. Now, you didn't notice that I had a little cat in my pocket when I was rescued and landed on this desert island. You didn't see it, you didn't notice it. No, it was very quiet, it was very small.”