Felicity Kendal

Speaker 10:00

Hello, I'm Kirsty Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs Archive.

Speaker 10:05

For rights reasons we've had to shorten the music. The programme was originally broadcast in 1978 and the presenter was Roy Plumley.

Presenter0:31

On our Desert Island this week is the actress Felicity Kendall. Felicity, are you musically inclined?

Felicity Kendal0:38

What a leading question. I don't know. I love music.

Presenter0:41

Do you play an instrument?

Felicity Kendal0:41

No, I don't. I have a guitar, but I have not yet learnt to play,'cause my fingers don't reach round, but I think that's because I can't do it yet.

Presenter0:49

Two play discs.

Felicity Kendal0:50

I'm not sure.

Presenter0:51

I'm not

Felicity Kendal0:52

In the evening, yes, I do. I've tended to more recently in the last couple of years. When I'm, um when I'm working I do in the evening. I don't put the telly on, I put a record on.

Presenter1:01

What was your plan for choosing your eight? Are you choosing nostalgically or great music or or what?

Felicity Kendal1:06

Well, that my plan was simply to go through the records that I have and to take the records that I play most often.

Presenter1:14

Fair enough.

Felicity Kendal1:14

Not necessarily the greatest things in the world, but the things that I I would put on of an evening.

Presenter1:19

What's the first one?

Felicity Kendal1:20

The first one, um A Concerto for Obo by Marcello.

Presenter2:24

Heinz Holliger playing Alessandro Marcello's concerto for oboe, strings and continuo in D minor. Why did you choose that one?

Felicity Kendal2:33

Oh, because it's romantic, I suppose, in a way, and I never get tired of it, and it's very moving. I find it very moving, I like that.

Presenter2:42

Well, now for the Kendall story. Where were you born?

Felicity Kendal2:44

I was born in Soliel.

Presenter2:46

And you come from a theatrical family?

Felicity Kendal2:48

Yes, I do. My parents are both. My father's, I think, one of the last actor managers in the world. And he had a theatre company and uh went out to India with Ensa during the war.

Felicity Kendal2:59

And went out again afterwards.

Presenter3:00

Uh

Felicity Kendal3:01

with another company,'cause he loved it so much, and I was with them when they went out after the war.

Presenter3:01

But

Presenter3:05

You were brought up during your first years in Virmik.

Felicity Kendal3:08

Yes, I was yes. I went, in fact, when I was seven, to India.

Presenter3:12

With your parents, Geoffrey and Laura Kendall.

Felicity Kendal3:14

Mm, yes.

Presenter3:16

How big a company have they?

Felicity Kendal3:17

Well, it varied. It started off with six, I believe, um, when I was nine months old, and it then went up to thirteen usually it was about ten but it came and went depending on the people who who went home and who was hired and who was ill and so forth.

Presenter3:33

And they were touring all over India. Where did they play?

Felicity Kendal3:36

They played colleges, schools. They took cinemas over for a season. There were some lovely old theatres, one in Simla called the Gaety Theatre that they played.

Presenter3:44

Oh, this is a famous old thing, isn't it?

Felicity Kendal3:45

Yes, Kipling played on the stage. It's a beautiful little I don't know whether it's still there, I think it's probably fallen down there with boxes and a beautiful Victorian theatre.

Presenter3:53

L M

Presenter3:55

And you were touring the whole time.

Felicity Kendal3:57

all the time. We never had a home or a base of any kind at all. I mean, we we were on tour

Felicity Kendal4:02

literally year in and year out.

Presenter4:04

A what about your scooting?

Felicity Kendal4:06

Oh Well, I went to I I've tried to count them, and I keep I'm sure I keep forgetting one or two. There were about eight different convent schools Loretta convents, dotted all over India more than eight, and I went to eight. I used to go in rotation as we toured round. It took about a year to go round India.

Felicity Kendal4:22

And as we went round, I had a different uniform. I refused to go unless I had a uniform apparently a horrible child. And uh I used to go for a week, or a month, or two months, or whatever it happened to be that we were how long we were in the the um village or the city, or whichever one.

Presenter4:38

In and out of all the eight convents.

Felicity Kendal4:39

In and out of all the eight comms and then back again.

Presenter4:42

How did you travel? How how did the company travel?

Felicity Kendal4:44

Any way at all, we went train mostly, car, taxi, lorries, all piled in on top and riding on top in in an open lorry.

Felicity Kendal4:52

Um any way we could ship by air. Air was a little expensive and we weren't well off all the time, so we didn't often go by air and we had a lot of gear.

Presenter5:01

And it was a fit up.

Felicity Kendal5:02

Oh yes, absolutely, yes, fit up, we will do it.

Presenter5:04

How many players in the repertoire?

Felicity Kendal5:06

They had about twelve, varying from things like gaslight and always had the merchant, a lot of Shakespeare, whatever the schools were doing was on the syllabus. We did those.

Felicity Kendal5:15

Am Shaw.

Presenter5:17

What's your second record?

Felicity Kendal5:19

My second record is Beethoven's Violin Concerto, which is wonderful, yes. Favorite.

Presenter6:27

Part of the first movement of the Beethoven Violin Concerto, Daniel Baremboem conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Pincher Zuckermann as soloist.

Presenter6:38

Felicity, when did you make your first appearance with the company?

Felicity Kendal6:41

I was put on in a basket as the changeling child when I was probably about nine months old, I would think. I can't remember that.

Presenter6:47

That was over here.

Felicity Kendal6:48

That was here, yes. And then in in India I played Page Boys endlessly. And when they needed somebody to change the set I was put into a little costume and sent on to do it.

Presenter6:53

Okay.

Presenter6:58

Helping make the costumes and

Felicity Kendal6:59

Oh, every oh, the props mostly. That was my job, yes. I had to polish the brass and help with the fit up and the skin. Oh, yes, absolutely, yeah.

Presenter7:04

And help with the fit up and the screen.

Presenter7:07

What was your first major role?

Felicity Kendal7:09

Macduff's son in Macbeth.

Presenter7:12

At what age?

Felicity Kendal7:12

What age? I was nine.

Felicity Kendal7:14

And I didn't want to do it at all. I was well, I wanted to do it until the actual time approached, and then I remember w it was a matinee somewhere in Bombay, I think.

Felicity Kendal7:23

And uh I was in my little black wig and had my makeup on and I was in my you know spa and had my spa and everything. And I knew the riots and um

Felicity Kendal7:32

My queue came and I was filled and I never forget it with such a panic that I I couldn't believe that th this could go on. So I saw the open door and I remember it now. It was

Felicity Kendal7:42

sunlight streaming through, and I thought I've got to be out there. This isn't where I've got to be, this is too frightening So I ran, and we had a blue curtain which we used to put up wherever we happened to be.

Felicity Kendal7:53

And I remember running behind this blue curtain, which was behind right backstage, and it billowing forth and as I got to the door my father dressed up as Macbeth, because that's what he was playing at the time, got hold of me.

Felicity Kendal8:04

literally by the scruff of my neck, and threw me on the stage.

Felicity Kendal8:08

And I then went on, and that was my first major role, and then at twelve.

Felicity Kendal8:14

or thirteen and I can't remember which it was, I played puck and from then on I never stopped working.

Presenter8:20

Well after that you did all the all the big ones, like Ophelia and Viola and Porsche.

Felicity Kendal8:20

Uh

Felicity Kendal8:24

Yes. Porsche. Yes. I never played Porsche. I know, I knew it all and I understood it. And I

Presenter8:27

I can't remember.

Felicity Kendal8:30

It w I was very um precocious. I could recite the whole of the first act of The Merchant of Venice at one point, because they played it so often and I was always asleep in the wings, and I used to know it. But, um no, I I didn't ever take over, Portia.

Presenter8:42

But you've got a lot of major roles under your belt very early indeed.

Felicity Kendal8:43

Major

Felicity Kendal8:45

Yes, rather badly, but certainly under my belt.

Presenter8:48

A very celebrated film was made about the the family company and and its activities.

Felicity Kendal8:54

Yeah.

Presenter8:54

Shakespeare Waller

Presenter8:56

How did that come about?

Felicity Kendal8:58

Well, they were there it was an American director, an Indian producer, and they wanted to make a film really about an Indian touring company, which there was one at the time.

Felicity Kendal9:06

And then they met my father, and thought, but how wonderful it would be to have this extraordinary situation with this

Felicity Kendal9:12

English it is. I mean it's sort of outrageous. Nobody else has done it and nobody else um I don't suppose will do it.

Felicity Kendal9:17

To have a company in India touring non-stop.

Speaker 49:20

Hmm.

Felicity Kendal9:21

Uh

Speaker 49:21

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal9:21

Playing Shakespeare.

Felicity Kendal9:22

And uh so they set about to make the film. They read a lot of my father's diaries and they concocted a story that was half real and half uh romantic, and they made the film.

Presenter9:33

Was the company all English? Were replacements sent out from England, or did you have Indian actors as well?

Felicity Kendal9:38

Well, they were all English to start with, and then there were a couple that stayed, in fact, for nine years.

Felicity Kendal9:43

Um as the others went back we replaced them, and we had the most wonderful conglomeration. There were there was an Irishman that came out with this, there was a tea planter that gave up planting.

Felicity Kendal9:53

and uh joined the company, who was very British. There was a couple of Indian people. There was uh an American lady who stopped being whatever she was in India and started to be one of us.

Felicity Kendal10:03

And it was a very, very strange mixture, but quite good, I think.

Presenter10:07

Record number three.

Felicity Kendal10:08

Now, uh the finale from chorus language. I think on a desert island one has to have something that one can dance to that is not at all deep in any way, and I think this might be it.

Speaker 410:20

One, two.

Speaker 410:22

Singular sensation every little step he takes.

Speaker 410:27

One, two, three.

Speaker 410:29

Will encompass every move that he makes.

Speaker 410:35

One smile and suddenly nobody else will do You know you'll never be lonely with you

Presenter10:49

One of the numbers from the finale of a chorus line. Now, you went round and round India. When did you come back to England?

Felicity Kendal10:56

I came back to England in nineteen sixty five. I hadn't been back for twelve years, I think it was then, and I thought, Well, what I'll do is see if I can get any work and I did in fact found it tremendously difficult for a good year and a half because they said everyone said, Well, what have you done? What training have you done? Where have you come from?

Presenter11:12

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal11:17

and I explained that I had in fact been working since I was so high and knew all this, and I'd played violin and all that and not that and they thought I was a bit potty, I think.

Felicity Kendal11:27

What was the thing?

Presenter11:27

What was the first job you got?

Felicity Kendal11:28

My first job

Presenter11:28

Mif's

Felicity Kendal11:30

Was a very small pl part dancing on a table in a love story thing. It was a love story for A T V.

Presenter11:37

And then we had about six months in in Leicester.

Felicity Kendal11:39

Yes, and I went to Leicester and then I came back and did another love story, only I played a bigger part this time, which was rather nice.

Presenter11:46

Had you acted before in modern clothes?

Felicity Kendal11:48

No, not at all. Except the film, which was sort of outside everything, an unusual experience. No, not at all. Never.

Presenter11:55

And quite soon you went back to Shakespeare.

Felicity Kendal11:57

Yes, I did a season at Regent's Park.

Presenter11:59

Open it.

Felicity Kendal11:59

Open atheity, yes.

Presenter12:00

Yeah.

Presenter12:01

What was your first West End appearance?

Felicity Kendal12:03

First West End appearance was at playing a a murderess of fifteen, I think it was, in a play called Minor Murder at The Savoy, which opened and closed very quickly. I think it was ten days or something.

Presenter12:13

Oh, bad luck.

Felicity Kendal12:15

Yes, they were quite right.

Presenter12:17

And then there was Keene. That was a success.

Felicity Kendal12:20

And oh yes, that was lovely, with Alan Bedell. That was that was a very lucky thing to be doing'cause it was a lovely part.

Presenter12:26

And you popped up at the National for what?

Felicity Kendal12:27

Yes, I popped out of an egg there. Oh, what was that? Back to Methuselah. Shaw's back to Methuselah.

Presenter12:29

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal12:33

and I came on at the end I I peered out of an egg as the newly born.

Presenter12:37

It doesn't sound like a very long part.

Felicity Kendal12:39

No, it wasn't very long at all. It was tremendously short.

Presenter12:43

Now, four years ago there was a very interesting theatrical experiment that you were mixed up in in Greenwich.

Felicity Kendal12:50

Yes, that was the Norman conquests. which is a trilogy which was the most wonderful thing to be given to any actor. And we d we did it at Greenwich, not thinking for a minute that it would come into town, because uh it was three and it had never been done before, that people would actually

Speaker 412:53

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal13:06

want to come and see the same people doing almost the same thing, three nights running in the same play.

Presenter13:11

Yes. Three plays, all the plays telling the same story, but as seen in a different room.

Felicity Kendal13:16

Yes, exactly. The first play was set in one room, and the other plays were what was going on at the same time as you saw the first play, only in the other two rooms or one in the garden actually, and one in the

Presenter13:26

But in fact the Norman conquests did come to the West End and had a very long run. Were they very confusing to play?

Felicity Kendal13:32

Not at all, no. We thought they would be, and we set up a thing we said we'll we'll get um a present, a bottle of champagne or something, and the first one that goes into the wrong play gets the but in fact nobody did nobody did.

Presenter13:43

Nobody did.

Felicity Kendal13:46

Yeah.

Presenter13:47

Record number four.

Felicity Kendal13:48

This is a chimarosa concerto for oboe in C minor.

Presenter13:53

The Obergen.

Felicity Kendal13:54

Yes, at the moment I have a thing about the oboe. I find it very it's sentimental in a way, but it's very pure and I love it at the moment.

Presenter14:59

The Chimaroso concerto for oboe with Pierre Pierlo as soloist. Now the box, the television. You've told us about your first television appearances in Love Story.

Speaker 415:03

Uh

Presenter15:11

You had a good, long, and and, I'm sure, very profitable job in that excellent series Edward the Seventh.

Felicity Kendal15:17

Yes, that was wonderful.

Presenter15:18

You played the Princess Royal.

Felicity Kendal15:20

Yes, indeed. Oh, I loved that. Yes. I thought that was smashing'cause there was so much to read about. I got very frustrated sometimes'cause there were so wonderful little things you find and this happened and that happened and she did this and that and one couldn't get it in, of course,'cause there was so much to be got into that and it wasn't after all about her, it was about Edward. But, um, I love being able to read about uh, you know, read up about somebody that I'm playing.

Presenter15:42

And of course there's been a sitcom which has had a great success, The Good Life.

Felicity Kendal15:48

Yes, yes, that has.

Presenter15:49

Now that started very modestly, didn't it?

Felicity Kendal15:49

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal15:51

Yes, it did. We were in the Norman Conquest, actually. Penny and I were um Penny Keith and I were both playing in the Norman Conquest, and they said, Well, what about this series? It's a little, you know, funny little idea, and what about it? And Dicky Brides is in it. I thought, wonderful, how wonderful And we did it, and they th said, Well, six or seven, I can't remember now.

Felicity Kendal16:09

And there were no loud sounds about it. It was just an idea that we thought rather good, and we knew, you know, three or four people might watch, and that would be the end.

Felicity Kendal16:17

And we did the seven, finished it, went back to work, and they said, Well, actually, I think we might try another six or something And after the second lot the ratings went

Felicity Kendal16:28

Where?

Presenter16:29

Mm-hmm.

Felicity Kendal16:30

And it was on the on the charts, as it were.

Presenter16:32

They really took off. How many series have we done?

Felicity Kendal16:34

Twenty six episodes. Twenty six episodes.

Presenter16:38

And you get to do some more?

Felicity Kendal16:39

We're going to do one in June, the sort of special. But we're not going to do another series. I think twenty six is enough. Leave it when it's when it's high, as they say, I hope.

Presenter16:48

Believe I'm wanting more.

Felicity Kendal16:48

Hunting Moore.

Presenter16:50

Record number five we got to.

Felicity Kendal16:51

Number five. Julian Bream

Felicity Kendal16:54

Pavanas.

Presenter16:56

Why'd you choose that?

Felicity Kendal16:57

I feel like well, it's the guitar and I think one has to have a bit of guitar'cause I do love guitar. It's just

Presenter17:02

Is that guitar that's lying about the host?

Felicity Kendal17:03

It was like

Felicity Kendal17:04

It's that guitar. You see, this is the trouble, yes, it's saying to me, Why can't you play That's the thing. I would hope to have that with me, but of course I can't. So I'd have Julian Bream instead.

Presenter18:12

Julian Breem playing Pabanas by Gaspar Santz.

Presenter18:16

Now from the box to feature films, you played a leading part in Ken Russell's picture Valentina.

Speaker 418:22

Hmm.

Presenter18:23

A very lush and elaborate and rather exciting film. Who did you play? The Hollywood Lady.

Felicity Kendal18:28

June Mathis, who was a lady who was in fact supposed to be um

Felicity Kendal18:33

fat and uh forty and very dark. I wasn't forty, I not yet and uh certainly not dark and I don't think fat, but um

Felicity Kendal18:44

She was a very important lady in his life. She discovered him in a way and was his friend really his friend. I think he had very few Valentina, that is.

Presenter18:51

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal18:52

And it was a lovely park.

Presenter18:53

In one sequence you were carried off into the desert over the saddle bow of the sheikh.

Felicity Kendal18:58

Yes, well

Presenter18:59

I believe he dropped you in the sand.

Felicity Kendal19:00

No, I didn't get very far. It was the second day's shooting, and we had this wonderful horse, and the thing was to

Felicity Kendal19:06

Right now, off you go. There was no rehearsal, this beautiful Arabian mare or whatever it was, and

Felicity Kendal19:12

Gallop as fast as you cross can across the sands, with somebody not actually Rudolph, but holding me in this little slip.

Felicity Kendal19:19

and we set off at a gallop.

Felicity Kendal19:22

and fell on head over heels, horse b and

Felicity Kendal19:26

both of us into the sand, so we never got very far, but they redid it again. It was a bit of a shock at the time, but

Presenter19:28

They re

Presenter19:29

Kennedy was a midget.

Presenter19:31

Where did you do the location?

Felicity Kendal19:32

That was in Spain. In Spain.

Presenter19:34

You've done another job for Ken Russell, which we haven't yet seen.

Felicity Kendal19:37

Yes, that's called Clouds of Glory for Granada Television. There are two stories, one about Coleridge and one about Dorothy and William Wordsworth.

Presenter19:46

Yes.

Felicity Kendal19:46

And I think they'll be very good.

Presenter19:49

These are rather back in the in the genre of the Delius film.

Felicity Kendal19:52

And the L Gar, yes, yes, I think I think they are, yes, definitely.

Presenter19:53

Yes, I think I think they are, yeah.

Presenter19:57

It was for the future.

Felicity Kendal19:58

For the future I'm going to do Arms and a Man at Greenwich, going back to Greenwich, which is lovely,'cause I did like being there before.

Presenter20:05

Now you have a family. Of course your your small son Charlie is already, I'm told, a television performer.

Felicity Kendal20:11

Yes, well he doesn't perform so much as a peer. He appeared when he was nine months in Edward the Seventh as my daughter, but I won't tell him that.

Felicity Kendal20:20

And uh

Speaker 420:20

And uh

Felicity Kendal20:22

He then he was then in a oh, no, before that he was in a pram.

Felicity Kendal20:26

and he got ten pounds for being in in a crowd scene in a pram when he was about six weeks.

Presenter20:31

So he started even younger than you would.

Felicity Kendal20:32

Even younger, yes. He was in a pram and the wheel fell off and everyone was absolutely horrified of the pram, that is. And then recently he's he's been in a play, he's been playing My Son. It hasn't come out yet, the play, that's for Yorkshire. The script called for a little

Felicity Kendal20:46

tiny baby and I said, Well, that's all very well, but I have my son and maybe he would be better.

Felicity Kendal20:52

Um, because I thought it would be quite good to take him with me, because it was three months away, three weeks away.

Speaker 420:57

Dude.

Felicity Kendal20:57

And so he played my son. But I don't really want to encourage him. I mean, these things just have happened, but certainly not. I'm not going to send him out to work. I don't want him to be an actor at all, if I can help it.

Presenter21:08

Right.

Presenter21:09

Record number six.

Felicity Kendal21:11

Number six, Schubert, the symphony number eight in B Ma, the unfinished one, which is

Presenter21:16

Yeah.

Speaker 421:16

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal21:16

Because I like it.

Presenter22:20

Part of the Schubert Eighth Symphony, the Unfinished, Herbert von Karian conducting the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra.

Presenter22:28

Now after all those years of fit up, a little making, do and mending on a desert island shouldn't be too daunting for you.

Felicity Kendal22:33

Yeah.

Felicity Kendal22:35

Well, perhaps not. I think I could manage comparatively well.

Presenter22:39

You can put up some sort of living quarters.

Felicity Kendal22:40

Some sort of

Felicity Kendal22:41

Oh, I think so. I think the living quarters would be the least of my worries, yes. I would I would find that all right, and find bits of fruit and the odd thing, and a bit of um

Presenter22:50

Well, that's the point. You know about tropical vegetation. You know which which kinds you can eat and which kinds you mustn't.

Felicity Kendal22:55

Yes, I think that would be all right. And I'm not afraid of snakes and creepy coris. I mean, that's a good start, isn't it, for a desert island. I don't mind fishing things like that. Not very good at fishing, no, never tried it, but one would have to get a stone and get at all those rocky things, you know, those sort of things that stick to rocks, I suppose. I mean, those are eatable, aren't they?

Presenter23:00

Yeah.

Presenter23:01

I do my fishing slide.

Presenter23:11

Yes.

Felicity Kendal23:12

Yeah.

Presenter23:12

Would you try to escape?

Felicity Kendal23:12

What you got?

Felicity Kendal23:15

I don't think I would, because I would be too afeard.

Felicity Kendal23:19

Either be eaten by a shark or if I fell off my raft, or I would be devoured in the jungle if I went inland. No, I don't think I would. I think I would stay where I was, make a camp, and hope.

Felicity Kendal23:30

Who?

Presenter23:31

Hope.

Felicity Kendal23:32

Mm.

Presenter23:32

Right. Back to music.

Felicity Kendal23:34

Well, this this is something that I I m think is if you're breaking your heart, this is the thing pleasant to,'cause it is so

Felicity Kendal23:42

Incredibly moving to me anyway.

Felicity Kendal23:45

It's alvinone, adagio for organ and strings.

Presenter24:49

Imusici with Maria Theresa Garratti

Presenter24:52

The albinonia daggio in G minor for strings and organ, arranged by Raimo Giazzotto.

Presenter25:00

Now we come to your last disc. What's that?

Felicity Kendal25:03

My last disc is Misty Roses, Tim Hardin, and that is sentimental beyond belief, because it's from a record that my husband bought me before in fact we were married, and and so I would have to have that with me, I think.

Presenter25:17

Your husband, of course, i i is an actor. Have you worked together much?

Felicity Kendal25:20

Well, we met on a two hander and got married after that and we have worked we worked in Leicester together.

Presenter25:24

And we have

Presenter25:27

And you haven't closed his name.

Felicity Kendal25:27

What was his name?

Felicity Kendal25:28

Drew Henley.

Presenter25:31

You look to me

Felicity Kendal25:33

Uh

Presenter25:33

Like misty roses

Presenter25:39

Uh

Presenter25:40

Too soft a touch.

Presenter25:45

But too lovely.

Presenter25:47

To evil love

Presenter25:54

If I could be

Presenter25:56

Like misty roses

Presenter26:01

Tim Hardin singing Misty Roses. If you could take just one disc, which?

Felicity Kendal26:05

I think it would have to be the Beethoven Warling concern.

Presenter26:09

Right. And you're allowed to take one luxury with you.

Felicity Kendal26:13

I would take perfume.

Presenter26:15

Would you like to nominate one?

Felicity Kendal26:16

Well, yes, the one I'm using at the moment is FIRST.

Presenter26:20

First, you should have a large supply.

Felicity Kendal26:23

Yeah.

Presenter26:23

and one book apart from the Bible, Shakespeare, and big encyclopedias.

Felicity Kendal26:27

Ah Well, I would take Shaw's complete works.

Presenter26:30

And you shall have the prefaces as well.

Felicity Kendal26:32

Yes, thank you very much.

Presenter26:34

And thank you, Felicity Kendall, for letting us hear your Desert Island Disc.

Felicity Kendal26:34

Uh

Felicity Kendal26:37

Thank you very much. It's been a great honor and a pleasure. Thank you.

Presenter26:41

Goodbye, everyone.

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