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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
An opera singer and young star of the operatic stage.
Eight records
unspecified children's recording
I would like very much to take one that belongs to my two children because I'd miss them very much
The keepsakes
In conversation
Presenter asks
How well could you endure loneliness?
I just don't think I'd survive. Not complete loneliness on a desert island. I like to have time to myself. When I feel that if I need people, you know, they're there, but
Presenter asks
Did you have any plan in choosing your eight records? What's the music to do for you?
Some of them I've chosen for nostalgic reasons, but I think it's basically just the sort of thing I would put on in the evening if I ever get a free evening to listen to records.
Presenter asks
When did you decide that music was to be your profession?
About the age of eighteen, I would say.
The recording
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Speaker 1
BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. For rights' reasons, the music is shorter than on the original broadcast. The presenter is Roy Plumley. I hope you enjoy listening.
Presenter
Our castaway this week is a singer, the young opera star Valerie Masterson.
Presenter
How well could you endure loneliness?
Valerie Masterson
I just don't think I'd survive. Not complete loneliness on a desert island. I like to have time to myself.
Valerie Masterson
When I feel that if I need people, you know, they're there, but
Presenter
What about the situation itself? Would it start any irrational fears?
Valerie Masterson
I've got those already. I don't need to go to the
Valerie Masterson
But uh yes, I mean uh just to name a few, I'm petrified of the dark and uh I can't bear creepy crawlies.
Presenter
Uh
Valerie Masterson
So what am I going to do?
Presenter
Uh
Presenter
I don't know. What would you be happiest to have got away from on a happier note?
Valerie Masterson
I think the telephone.
Presenter
Yes.
Presenter
Did you have any plan in choosing your eight records? What's the music to do for you?
Valerie Masterson
Some of them I've chosen for nostalgic reasons, but I think it's basically just the sort of thing I would put on in the evening if I ever get a free evening to listen to records.
Presenter
What's the first one you've just
Valerie Masterson
The first is the Cesar Frank Symphony in D minor.
Presenter
Part of the first movement of the Cesar Frank Symphony.
Presenter
Herbert von Karian conducting the Barris Orchestra.
Presenter
What's your second record?
Valerie Masterson
Uh my second, I've chosen Bridge Over Troubled Water by Simon and Garfunkel.
Speaker 3
Skid
Speaker 3
Uh
Speaker 3
And friends just can't be found like a bridge over trouble.
Speaker 3
Uh
Presenter
A musical family.
Valerie Masterson
Yes, uh my father was a professional singer.
Valerie Masterson
Uh, he died when I was a year old, so I didn't really have much contact with him.
Presenter
Was there a lot of music in your home?
Valerie Masterson
There was quite a lot on the lighter side, I would say, yes.
Presenter
When did you first show interest? When did you start to?
Presenter
Play the piano or sing.
Valerie Masterson
Uh
Valerie Masterson
I started singing at school.
Valerie Masterson
But before that I took dancing lessons at started about the age of four.
Presenter
What was in your mind? Was it music more than theatre or theatre more than music?
Valerie Masterson
I think just theatre, because I I remember stories from
Valerie Masterson
way back in my childhood about my father, really. I think that's where it all started. It all sounded so exciting and romantic.
Valerie Masterson
And it was a a life, of course, that I didn't have any part in at that stage.
Presenter
When did you decide that music was to be your profession?
Valerie Masterson
Uh
Valerie Masterson
About the age of eighteen, I would say.
Presenter
And you came to the Royal College of Music.
Valerie Masterson
Yes, after
Valerie Masterson
Qualifying as a radiographer.
Presenter
As a radiographer.
Valerie Masterson
Yes.
Presenter
Was that important to you or was that a sort of second string in in case things went wrong with singing?
Valerie Masterson
It was a second string. It was always meant to be, yes, a good standby in case I um didn't make it as a singer.
Presenter
Yes.
Presenter
Was your grant enough to keep you at Royal College, or did you do odd jobs while you were there?
Valerie Masterson
It certainly wasn't enough to keep me really. I I um
Valerie Masterson
Did
Valerie Masterson
Several things I sang in pantomime in summer season.
Presenter
Where?
Valerie Masterson
Ah, now the first I think was a pantomime in Cambridge. I was in the chorus of that.
Valerie Masterson
With Cyril Fletcher.
Valerie Masterson
He was very nice.
Presenter
He still is, unfortunately.
Presenter
Yes, where else?
Valerie Masterson
I did a summer season in Eastbourne with the Falderalls and pantomime in Oxford.
Presenter
Yeah.
Valerie Masterson
It began to take over a little bit, I think. You know, it began to get more more offers really. And in the end, I remember the director of college said, Vari, you really must sort out whether you are going to do this sort of music as a full-time profession.
Valerie Masterson
Or whether you still want to keep on with this idea of being an opera singer. If you want to be an opera singer, then you must come back here from time to time.
Valerie Masterson
Not so.
Presenter
What is that?
Valerie Masterson
Yeah
Presenter
You left the Royal College with the award of Best Singer of the Year.
Valerie Masterson
Yes.
Presenter
What happened next?
Valerie Masterson
Uh I had a scholarship to study in Italy. I went there for a year.
Presenter
Yes.
Presenter
About?
Valerie Masterson
And then I went to Austria, to Salzburg, to the Landers Theatre and sang in with their opera company. And then I came back to England.
Valerie Masterson
intended marrying and it was going to be very difficult if I was going to be on the continent for most of
Valerie Masterson
of the year.
Valerie Masterson
So I decided to come back to England and I simply did auditions for every opera company here.
Presenter
Mm-hmm. And the doily cart said yes.
Valerie Masterson
And the Dorica said yes.
Presenter
and you played principal soprano parts with them and you went on the American tours.
Valerie Masterson
Yes. I did an American tour about seven weeks after I joined the company, so I was very lucky. But then soon after that, my husband joined the orchestra of the Doilikart, and we traveled together for five and a half years.
Presenter
Yes. And you did a film of the Mikado.
Valerie Masterson
While I was with the Doyle Cart, we made a Warner Bros. full-length film of the Mikado.
Valerie Masterson
And of course since then I did one for the BBC and most recently a Yeoman of the Guard for BBC.
Presenter
Yes, Elsie.
Valerie Masterson
else the main audience.
Presenter
Then
Presenter
Your first baby arrived, Jason, and you had time to rethink your career, a rather important pause.
Valerie Masterson
Yes.
Presenter
Well, let's break off at that point then and have record number three.
Valerie Masterson
which will be um the opening of the second act of The Bocado.
Speaker 3
I never said.
Presenter
The opening of the second act of The Mikado.
Presenter
Buy the Deulicart Opera Company.
Valerie Masterson
Right.
Presenter
Now what was the next step? Obviously after the arrival of baby Jason you didn't want to travel about for a bit.
Valerie Masterson
No. Although in fact I did do quite a bit of traveling because then I simply was a freelance artist doing concerts and at the same time auditioning for various companies.
Valerie Masterson
And I think the first
Valerie Masterson
group to give me um an opera to do anyway was uh at the Camden Festival. I did the part of Aminaida in Tancredie.
Presenter
Yes, unknown territory
Valerie Masterson
Absolutely unknown, yes.
Presenter
What did tenth grady lead to?
Valerie Masterson
Well, nothing immediately in the sense that uh I didn't get people rushing up to the dressing room door asking me to do anything, but I think it was probably a good showcase for me. And very soon after that I was asked to cover the role of Constanța in Seraglio.
Presenter
Yes.
Valerie Masterson
for the what was then the Saddle as Wells Opera Company.
Valerie Masterson
And I think it would have simply been a question of covering a role.
Valerie Masterson
Except that um I went in one morning and and the soprano was sick and I was asked to sing the rehearsal.
Presenter
Just like that. One of the most difficult roles in the repertoire, isn't it, Constanza?
Valerie Masterson
Well, yes. Um that morning I didn't have time to think. I just had to get up there and do it.
Presenter
Not a bad way. If the Saddlers Wales had already moved to the Coliseum at that time.
Valerie Masterson
Yes.
Presenter
Now, what other parts have you played for Saddler's Wells, which is now, of course, the English national opera?
Valerie Masterson
Well, after Soralio I did um Orpheus in the Underworld, quite a different uh part.
Presenter
Test
Valerie Masterson
And then the Countess in Country.
Valerie Masterson
Adele inflate a mas.
Valerie Masterson
Manon Traviato.
Presenter
Yes. And you did ask her the page in in Verde's The Mask Ball and it isn't often that the part of the page steals the notices.
Presenter
Um Rose and Cavalier, Sophie, the new production. And what next?
Valerie Masterson
Michaela and Carmen I'm going to do next.
Presenter
Def.
Presenter
Are you a quick study?
Valerie Masterson
Well, I've had to be up to now, but I'd like to think that in the future I'll have a longer time to study the roles that I'm going to do.
Presenter
You've been singing all these lyric roles and you made your Covent Garden debut in The Ring in Rheingold.
Valerie Masterson
Yes. The one that we did at the garden, of course, was a completely new event in theatre for me. It it was um
Valerie Masterson
a question of lying down most of the time.
Valerie Masterson
Being seen through a mirror.
Speaker 3
Mm-hmm.
Valerie Masterson
From an audience point of view, I mean. But of course, we also had to see the conductor through this mirror. In other words, he was upside down.
Presenter
This was underneath the right to explain it all.
Valerie Masterson
To explain it all. Yes, yes. Um, but it was kind of singing with your back to the audience, uh, seeing the conductor upside down, but apart from that it was
Presenter
Uh let's
Valerie Masterson
But less enjoyable.
Presenter
Fagner with an upside-down conductor. Something new in share business every week. Let's have record number four.
Valerie Masterson
Well record number four, I would like very much to take one that belongs to my two children because I'd miss them very much and it's called I'm a Little Teapot.
Presenter
What about putting up a HUD?
Valerie Masterson
Um yes, I'd I'd I'd have a good try at doing that. What worries me really is where I'd put it though. I think I'd have to put it up a tree, wouldn't I? And how would I do that?
Presenter
A windy hut. Oh, that's a bit ambitious. A sheltered spot near the beach.
Valerie Masterson
You don't think I'll be eaten up during the night?
Presenter
No. You'll never know what's going to climb trees for a start.
Presenter
What about food?
Valerie Masterson
Food.
Valerie Masterson
Ah well, um
Valerie Masterson
I've long
Valerie Masterson
I felt that I would like to be a vegetarian, so this would be my golden opportunity.
Presenter
Magnificent chance. You wouldn't bother with fishing or anything of that sort.
Valerie Masterson
Well, I c I simply couldn't kill anything, so I couldn't really attempt fishing, no.
Presenter
Would you try to escape?
Valerie Masterson
Yes, eventually. Yes.
Presenter
Yes. Any ideas on that?
Valerie Masterson
Um well I I just
Valerie Masterson
try and build a raft and set off.
Valerie Masterson
One luxury
Valerie Masterson
Well, I'd like a large sea chest full of
Presenter
What?
Valerie Masterson
Beauty products including
Valerie Masterson
Soap, shampoo, face cream and perfume.
Presenter
Please.
Presenter
Can one book apart from the Bible, Shakespeare, big encyclopedias?
Valerie Masterson
Um well I don't know if it's published actually. I thought maybe I'd take the Roy Plumney Do-it-yourself desert island.
Valerie Masterson
Disc book
Presenter
What's in that, then?
Valerie Masterson
It's a survival manual.
Presenter
No, I haven't got around to a survival manual yet, but we'll find you the best one there is.
Presenter
And thank you, Valerie Masterson, for letting us hear your Desert Island Discs.
Valerie Masterson
I've enjoyed it. Thank you.
Presenter
Goodbye, everyone.
Presenter asks
Was that [qualifying as a radiographer] important to you or was it a sort of second string in case things went wrong with singing?
It was a second string. It was always meant to be, yes, a good standby in case I um didn't make it as a singer.
Presenter asks
What happened next [after leaving the Royal College with the award]?
Uh I had a scholarship to study in Italy. I went there for a year. … And then I went to Austria, to Salzburg, to the Landers Theatre and sang in with their opera company. And then I came back to England. … I decided to come back to England and I simply did auditions for every opera company here.
Presenter asks
Are you a quick study?
Well, I've had to be up to now, but I'd like to think that in the future I'll have a longer time to study the roles that I'm going to do.
“I just don't think I'd survive. Not complete loneliness on a desert island. I like to have time to myself. When I feel that if I need people, you know, they're there, but”
“I've got those already. I don't need to go to the But uh yes, I mean uh just to name a few, I'm petrified of the dark and uh I can't bear creepy crawlies.”
“I think just theatre, because I I remember stories from way back in my childhood about my father, really. I think that's where it all started. It all sounded so exciting and romantic. And it was a a life, of course, that I didn't have any part in at that stage.”
“Well, yes. Um that morning I didn't have time to think. I just had to get up there and do it.”