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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
Opera soprano who broke racial barriers as the first Black artist to perform an operatic role on US national television.
Eight records
The keepsakes
The luxury
In conversation
Presenter asks
You were born in the state of Mississippi. Do you come from a musical family?
I wouldn't say I'm [a] musical family as such, but my mother had a gloriously beautiful voice and sang an awful lot, so I guess probably that was the beginning of my initial inspiration to sing, yes.
Presenter asks
When did the ambition begin to take shape that you wanted music to be your life, your profession?
I recall vividly an experience which I think probably pinpointed it for me. At the age of nine or ten … I was carried by my mother to a neighbouring town of Jackson, Mississippi. And a gloriously regal lady walked out on stage in a beautiful white gown, and her name was Marian Anderson. And I knew as soon as I saw her walk out, even before she started to sing, and even more afterwards, that that's what I'd like to do one day.
Presenter asks
You won a scholarship to the Juilliard School of Music in New York. Was the scholarship enough to live on or did you have to take jobs?
The recording
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Leontyne Price
This download is the only extract the BBC has of this edition of Desert Island Discs. The presenter was Roy Plumley.
Presenter
Miss Price, you were born in the state of Mississippi. Do you come from a musical family?
Leontyne Price
I wouldn't say I'm usical family as such, but my mother.
Leontyne Price
had a gloriously beautiful voice and sang an awful lot, so I guess probably that was the beginning of my initial inspiration to sing, yes.
Presenter
How did you start? Were you put to the piano in in the usual way?
Leontyne Price
Yes, it's sort of the usual way. The only thing is with um um having piano lessons at a very early age uh in the community where I was, which is a rather provincial one, uh it's put to good use as soon as you can tell one chord from the other. So I was playing for Sunday school and for community social events and also graduated to playing even for the eleven o'clock service in the church.
Presenter
Did you sing in the choir?
Leontyne Price
Oh yes, I did. That was sort of a a double duty because um as I got a little older as a an early teenager, say from fourteen to sixteen, I played and sang, so I was sort of the one lady band, just so to speak.
Presenter
That's all.
Presenter
When did the ambition begin to take shape that you wanted music to be your your life, your profession?
Leontyne Price
I think I've wanted to do something musically ever since I can remember, but I recall vividly an experience which I think probably pinpointed it for me. At the age of nine or ten, I've forgotten technically which age it was, but somewhere along there, I um was carried by my mother to a neighboring uh town of Jackson, Mississippi.
Leontyne Price
And a gloriously regal lady walked out on stage in a beautiful white gown, and her name was Marian Anderson. And I knew as soon as I saw her walk out, even before she started to sing, and even more afterwards, that that's what I'd like to do one day.
Presenter
Yes. And you won a scholarship to the Juilliard School of Music in New York. Was the scholarship enough to live on or did you have to take jobs to tide you over?
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
Leontyne Price
I had jobs. I had this may be incredible to believe, but I had a part-time job as a hostess behind an information desk at the International House in New York City. I have friends and colleagues who would probably argue that I had an information to give, but
Presenter
Yeah, the international
Leontyne Price
Uh it certainly helped to pay for music and I had um
Presenter
Uh it's totally how
Leontyne Price
uh some help from friends and I worked also alternate Sundays for a church. I I was a soloist there. So we made ends meet what with my my parents' help and and mine.
Presenter
So
Presenter
As a student, which singers influenced you most?
Leontyne Price
Number one, as I said, Marianne Anderson. Operatically speaking, I would have to say, without any question, Maria Carlas. I think that she has left for us all a legacy of electricity, histrionic achievements, vocal perfection, professionalism, qualities that are too numerous to mention. As far as opera is concerned, she definitely was my great, great inspiration.
Presenter
You did rather well in a student production of Verdi's Falstaff.
Leontyne Price
Yes.
Presenter
Now that student production of Falstaff was very useful to you because it was seen by Virgil Thompson.
Leontyne Price
That's true. Virgil Thompson was repeating a revival of his Four Saints in Three Acts and I was able to I audition then I was able to get that part. Also the performance in which he heard me in Falstaff as Mistress Ford helped also as a double part of the audition so I was able to be sort of number seven saint on the right or something for a while.
Presenter
And Four Saints and Three Acts led on to something else.
Leontyne Price
Four Season 3 Acts led on to the part of Bess in the third revival of Porgy and Bess in 1952.
Presenter
It was a Broadway run and you brought Poggy and Bess to London and Paris and
Leontyne Price
Yes, it was my first trip to this glorious city, as a matter of fact, nineteen fifty two.
Presenter
Now, two seasons of a singing bass.
Presenter
And back to the States. You gave a recital at New York Town Hall that went down exceedingly well.
Leontyne Price
Yes, um that crossed the bridge from Broadway to, I guess, what you would call the mm classic performing era.
Presenter
Ninety.
Leontyne Price
Nineteen fifty-four it was, yes.
Presenter
Then some opera on television.
Leontyne Price
Hmm?
Leontyne Price
Then, yes, the NBC at that time sponsored a series of live opera performances in English, and I was given the role of Tosca, which made quite a splash in many ways, happily vocally, I'm very happy to say, but also the fact that it was the first time a black artist was in an operatic role on national television.
Presenter
Yes.
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
Presenter
What was your first classical operatic appearance in the States?
Leontyne Price
Actually, the dialogues of the Carmelites in San Francisco in 1957.
Leontyne Price
in the Francis Poulenck opera was my very first operatic stage performance professionally in the United States.
Presenter
Yes. And overseas?
Leontyne Price
Overseas was in um Verona first and actually immediately after that, 1958, my debut here in Covent Garden in Aida.
Presenter
And you sang Aida of the Scala Milan.
Leontyne Price
Yes, n uh later, in nineteen sixty.
Presenter
Was that a a a nerve wracking occasion? Here was an American singing A Verdi Roll in Milan.
Presenter
Did you feel sort of rather humble about that or a bit scared?
Leontyne Price
Oh, I think you can be.
Presenter
And
Leontyne Price
Humble to an extent, but not too humble if you're afraid of
Presenter
Follow with
Leontyne Price
Only with only with family, I guess. No, uh not r I I I've never been afraid uh doing I eat it. It's sort of my
Leontyne Price
Um how can I put it? I don't want to offend anyone, but it's sort of my
Leontyne Price
Comfortable shoe part, you know.
Presenter
That's a
Leontyne Price
I I have the wrong wheel travel. So I wasn't I wasn't upset about it at all.
Presenter
Yeah, my
Leontyne Price
Very much so, yes.
Presenter
When did you make your debut at the Metropolitan New York?
Leontyne Price
Uh January 1961, in the role of Leonora in Il Trovatore.
Presenter
Yeah.
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
Presenter
And in 1966, you starred in the opening production at the new Metropolitan. Now, that must have been quite a night.
Leontyne Price
Speaking of petrifying experiences, that was one, yes. Um in 1966 the opera Antony and Cleopatra written by our very marvelous composer Samuel Barber uh was the opening of the new Metropolitan Opera House and I had the privilege of singing the part of Cleopatra.
Presenter
How many operatic rails do you have in your repertoire?
Leontyne Price
Goodness, everybody don't.
Presenter
Ever control?
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
Leontyne Price
I really don't know.
Presenter
What?
Leontyne Price
Quite a few.
Presenter
Apart from Ada, which are the easy choose ones.
Leontyne Price
I try to think of them all as easy shoes. My approach is that they all, um, are not not too difficult. I think that's a healthy approach.
Presenter
Right. Which are the ones you'd still like to sing?
Leontyne Price
Probably I would like to do someday maybe um La Traviat on stage. I have not done that yet. It is in my repertoire, but I have not performed it as yet.
Presenter
What proportion of your professional life i is devoted to concert singing?
Leontyne Price
Now I have divided my performing life into three units. Uh so it's um one-third um recital and concert performances, one-third opera and one-third recording.
Presenter
Yeah. You're a very prolific recording artist. You do most of your recording in London.
Leontyne Price
I'm happy to say I certainly do. I enjoy it immensely.
Presenter
That that's why you do it here.
Leontyne Price
Well, for many, many reasons. It's where it's where RSCA does record now. But from my point of view, my love for English history makes it happier days for me when I'm not recording to stay in London.
Presenter
Yeah. You you like roaming around old English buildings?
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
Leontyne Price
I do. There's so much to see here. It's a glory.
Presenter
Which period in history intrigues you met?
Leontyne Price
The Elizabethan Age.
Presenter
Where is your base? Where do you live? In New York?
Leontyne Price
Yes, um, I live in uh the lower part of Manhattan, Greenwich Village, which is rather like your Chelsea area here, I think. Yes.
Presenter
What excitements are lined up for the future
Leontyne Price
Um, I think I've uh speaking of other things that are exciting, there's another role that I'm adding to my repertoire in the within the year, and that is Mano Lesco of Buccini. So uh right now that's probably my most exciting thing to look forward to.
Presenter
So
Presenter
Where are you going to sing that?
Leontyne Price
I will be doing it in uh San Francisco for the opening next season.
Presenter
Great.
Leontyne Price
Yeah.
I had jobs. … I had a part-time job as a hostess behind an information desk at the International House in New York City. … It certainly helped to pay for music and I had some help from friends and I worked also alternate Sundays for a church. … So we made ends meet what with my parents' help and mine.
Presenter asks
As a student, which singers influenced you most?
Number one, as I said, Marian Anderson. Operatically speaking, I would have to say, without any question, Maria Callas. I think that she has left for us all a legacy of electricity, histrionic achievements, vocal perfection, professionalism, qualities that are too numerous to mention. As far as opera is concerned, she definitely was my great, great inspiration.
Presenter asks
You sang Aida at La Scala, Milan. Was that a nerve-wracking occasion? An American singing a Verdi role in Milan?
I think you can be humble to an extent, but not too humble … I've never been afraid doing Aida. It's sort of my comfortable shoe part, you know. … So I wasn't upset about it at all.
“A gloriously regal lady walked out on stage in a beautiful white gown, and her name was Marian Anderson. And I knew as soon as I saw her walk out, even before she started to sing, and even more afterwards, that that's what I'd like to do one day.”
“I was given the role of Tosca, which made quite a splash in many ways, happily vocally, I'm very happy to say, but also the fact that it was the first time a black artist was in an operatic role on national television.”
“Speaking of petrifying experiences, that was one, yes. In 1966 the opera Antony and Cleopatra written by our very marvellous composer Samuel Barber was the opening of the new Metropolitan Opera House and I had the privilege of singing the part of Cleopatra.”
“My love for English history makes it happier days for me when I'm not recording to stay in London. … There's so much to see here. It's a glory.”
“There's another role that I'm adding to my repertoire within the year, and that is Manon Lescaut of Puccini. So right now that's probably my most exciting thing to look forward to.”