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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
An entertainer and comedian who in his twenties became compere of Sunday Night at the London Palladium and later presented his own shows.
Eight records
Cliff Richard and the Drifters
first hit called uh Move It Then. It was Cliff Richard and the Drifters, they were called.
Sunday Night at the London Palladium (theme)
When I have down periods … I've got a tape of that show and I just sit in my little room at home and put it on the tape recorder and play it.
The keepsakes
No book or luxury recorded for this episode.
In conversation
Presenter asks
As a youngster, what did you want to be?
Professional footballing. That was always always a being my ambition. I suppose it still is to a little little degree.
Presenter asks
Were you fascinated by show business as well? Did you hang around music halls as well as football fields?
Oh yes. My my granddad was a Pyrrho in the Isle of Man, and uh not that I ever saw him do that, but uh when he was a young man. And uh I've always loved the theatre.
Presenter asks
What was your first job when you left school?
I was a mechanic in a garage, apprentice mechanic. … No, terrible. … Oh, you name it. I did it. I I really couldn't settle. I was in and out of jobs, you know.
The recording
Timestamps play the recording from that turn
Presenter
This download is the only extract the B B C has of this edition of Desert Island Discs. The presenter was Roy Plumley. So it's true this rumour that you come from Liverpool. Well, I'm afraid it is. Yes, it is. As a youngster, Jimmy, what did you want to be?
Jimmy Tarbuck
Professional footballing. That was always always a
Jimmy Tarbuck
being my ambition. I suppose it still is to a little little degree.
Presenter
Were you fascinated by show business as well? Did you hang around music halls as well as football fields?
Jimmy Tarbuck
Oh yes. My my granddad was a Pyrrho in the Isle of Man, and uh not that I ever saw him do that, but uh when he was a young man. And uh I've always loved the theatre.
Jimmy Tarbuck
What was your first job when you left school?
Jimmy Tarbuck
I was a mechanic in a garage, apprentice mechanic. A good one? No, terrible. And then? Thank you very much. Here's your cards.
Jimmy Tarbuck
After that? Oh, you name it. I did it. I I really couldn't settle. I was in and out of jobs, you know.
Jimmy Tarbuck
What sort of job?
Presenter
Yeah.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Oh, uh I worked in the laundry. I was a labourer, a milkman, a gardener.
Jimmy Tarbuck
I used to chew bread for gummy women. That was just as a sideline. And I had older jobs. You name them, I didn't.
Presenter
And uh off had all the jobs, you name'em I'd
Jimmy Tarbuck
And when did comicking come into it?
Jimmy Tarbuck
You know one of these kids who had the smart back answer in school and that? Yeah. Suppose right hard faced cheeky young man and uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
I went on holiday with it with a group of footballers actually. Um
Jimmy Tarbuck
Bobby Campbell, Jimmy Mealia, and uh John Morrissey, three fine footballers. We all went on holiday to a very well-known uh holiday camp and um
Jimmy Tarbuck
I got up on the stage just to give them a laugh in a in a r uh talent contest.
Presenter
Yeah.
Jimmy Tarbuck
For the campers.
Jimmy Tarbuck
and everybody else left and it was a quite exhilarating feeling.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Just fooling around with them laughing and uh lo and behold, that was the start of it all in nineteen fifty eight. Did you win a prize? Yes, I did.
Jimmy Tarbuck
I won the week's uh I went back uh for the camp final, they called it, of all the ma uh, the holiday makers. The finals of everything was held and I won that. Then I won the area final, and then I went on to the final in London. I didn't win that, but I was signed up
Presenter
I know
Jimmy Tarbuck
by an agent and I was put out as a compere on rock and roll shows.
Presenter
Is
Jimmy Tarbuck
And, um, top of the bill was a very well known young man called Cliff Richard. Well, I know him. Who had his first hit called uh Move It Then. It was Cliff Richard and the Drifters, they were called.
Presenter
before they became the shadows.
Presenter
So you started comparing rock and roll shows. Did things go fairly smoothly? Was it a steady progress? Oh no, I mean it was like
Jimmy Tarbuck
like a week's work and then four weeks out of work and then uh
Presenter
Hello.
Jimmy Tarbuck
you know, say two days here, a night there.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And uh but it was all experience, all the time.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And um
Jimmy Tarbuck
You worked a lot in holiday games.
Jimmy Tarbuck
I went back, yes, as a as a compere at Potheli and, um
Jimmy Tarbuck
You know, that
Jimmy Tarbuck
Without those uh the without the seasons in the holiday camps, I don't think I'd have been uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
professionally uh as advanced as I was because I was never off a microphone, always talking to people, even if it was Hello, Missus, how are you today? and it's the bingo round the corner and whatever it was, all the time I was on a microphone. Yes, and getting competent. And uh of course the music halls were closing then and and th the the only place that you could learn your job and and even to this day
Presenter
Leaving the river.
Jimmy Tarbuck
If I was any young comedian or young performer said to me, Where should I go for experience? I'd say a holiday camp in the summer.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And then the clubs in the winter? Yes, then the clubs and they, you know, they were hard in the pubs.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And I got the bird a few times and uh you just had to grit your teeth and get on with it. Yes. What was your first big brick?
Jimmy Tarbuck
Um
Jimmy Tarbuck
Well, i i it w it it all happened in kinda ten days. I I did a show up north called Comedy Bandbox that never went out down south. It was for ABC. I've got to thank them because they gave me my very first uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
T V spot
Jimmy Tarbuck
I was in a show in Our Browth in Scotland, the Webster Memorial Hall I was at. And this fellow just sent me a letter: Would you come to London and meet me? And I came down and met this man.
Presenter
That's fine.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And I was immediately uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
Taken to him for his honesty promised me nothing.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And anyway, in in a short period of his uh work he got me this um
Jimmy Tarbuck
This first T V show that went the proverbial bomb. Don't ask me why, but it just did.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And I was in uh a tailor's in Liverpool and he said, I want you to phone me at three o'clock um
Jimmy Tarbuck
on this uh Wednesday afternoon I think it was.
Jimmy Tarbuck
So I said, right, I said, now I said, I want you to be prepared for a shock. So I thought, oh, this is this, he doesn't want to go through with the contract or something like that, you know.
Jimmy Tarbuck
He said you're on Sunday night at the London Palladium on Sunday.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And um
Jimmy Tarbuck
It all went ever so well.
Jimmy Tarbuck
for me that night and uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
when I have down periods, and we all do at times.
Jimmy Tarbuck
I've got a tape of that show and I just sit in my little room at home and put it on the tape recorder and play it. And everything was super. Val Parnell was great. Um
Presenter
Uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
Bruce Forsyth was marvellous, the introduction. Terry Miller was the man who managed me then and still managed me. And a guy called Alec Fyne, I suppose. They were the four people that were really involved with the real big break when it happened in sixty three. And then you found yourself chosen for the Royal Variety Show? Well, that came um in sixty four. And I remember phoning Terry up, I said
Jimmy Tarbuck
When do you ever think I'll get a Roll Command performance? And he's always said there's no chance of that. I'm flying up to Blackpool to see you.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And he flew up. He said, I've got a piece of paper for you. It's bad news.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And, you know, I once again I thought, Oh, dear, what's happened here? and I opened the piece of paper, and there it was. Dear Sir, we have pleasure of informing you that you've been chosen to appear in front of Her Majesty the Queen. Well
Jimmy Tarbuck
But I wasn't allowed to tell anybody because they don't you know, they don't let you tell it well I I was just saying to my mother and father, I've got something smashing to tell you, but I can't tell you yet.
Presenter
You know that
Presenter
And then your own series, it's Starbuck? That was, yes, that was in 1964. Yes. Now you were 23 years old, looking back.
Presenter
Had you the experience to handle it? Could you select the right material, build the character the way you think Tarbag ought to go? Well, to be honest.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Honest with you, at the time, Roy, it was all great fun.
Presenter
Uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
Yeah.
Presenter
Uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
You see the Beatles had arrived.
Jimmy Tarbuck
That's what had really started it, I suppose. And they'd got this great youth cult going, mm, and all of a sudden another fella came on, with the same type of suits, same accent and same hairstyle.
Presenter
Yes.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And uh Zippo Bang, it was marvellous.
Presenter
Wait, did you find yourself pressured very much who had all these agents and
Presenter
big tycoons round you.
Presenter
Not really, because uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Terry did it all, like the business, and always has done and always will do because I he
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Now he calls me lazy and everything becau because I uh he's laughing in there,'cause I don't want to know about it. I just tell him he he always says to me, like, you know, you're appearing here Oh, he doesn't say, he says, Will you appear you know, fancy this, fancy that But I never go to none of the meetings, you know, not n not not directly. I let him set them all up and then I go along.
Presenter
And then you became the resident compere of Sunday Night at the London.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Oh, well that was you see, it was all like magic. It w it went from one to two to three and then the ne the next step up was in sixty five and they made me compare at the palladium.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And that was Bingo. Well, it was the thing that put me into national prominence without uh shadow of a doubt.
Presenter
Now, Jimmy, you'd done forty-four consecutive Sunday nights at the Palladium in a row. As you said, a national figure, but uh I should think good and overexposed. This was a time when your career had to be planned. What happened next?
Jimmy Tarbuck
Well, we uh
Jimmy Tarbuck
He did manage to get me in the office one day, did the mill, as I called him.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And he said, Well, what do you think? I said, I don't want no television for eighteen months.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And I stayed off.
Jimmy Tarbuck
I worked. I worked, you know, very hard. Of course a lot of the public, and uh, God bless'em.
Jimmy Tarbuck
They're under the impression, you know, that if you don't if you're not on tele, you're not working. But of course you are.
Presenter
Of course you are.
Jimmy Tarbuck
And um I worked in some
Presenter
Summer seasons and and pantomimes.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Yeah.
Presenter
Is your career planning out the way you'd want it? Is there any further ambition? Do you want to change it in any other direction?
Jimmy Tarbuck
Well, I think I'm thinking of making a comeback.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Yeah.
Presenter
Uh Great.
Jimmy Tarbuck
Hey f
Jimmy Tarbuck
I was at school with George Harrison and John Lennon for a while. Mm-hmm. See you down in the cabin. Oh yes, I used to go and see them there. Yeah, so you know, I mean, it was very exciting times. Mhm. People have often said to me, you know, i if you could have your success like it's been for you
Jimmy Tarbuck
Would you have it from twenty to thirty, thirty to forty, forty to fifty, or, you know, or give it me when I'm twenty to thirty, man, because like you can enjoy it so much and I have enjoyed it. I've had a very exciting
Presenter
Because like you can
Jimmy Tarbuck
Twenties
Presenter asks
Now you were 23 years old, looking back. Had you the experience to handle it [your own series]? Could you select the right material, build the character the way you think Tarbuck ought to go?
Honest with you, at the time, Roy, it was all great fun. … You see the Beatles had arrived. That's what had really started it, I suppose. And they'd got this great youth cult going, mm, and all of a sudden another fella came on, with the same type of suits, same accent and same hairstyle. And uh Zippo Bang, it was marvellous.
Presenter asks
As you said, a national figure, but I should think good and overexposed. This was a time when your career had to be planned. What happened next?
He said, Well, what do you think? I said, I don't want no television for eighteen months. … I worked, you know, very hard. … A lot of the public … they're under the impression, you know, that if you don't if you're not on tele, you're not working. But of course you are.
Presenter asks
Is your career planning out the way you'd want it? Is there any further ambition? Do you want to change it in any other direction?
Well, I think I'm thinking of making a comeback. … People have often said to me … if you could have your success like it's been for you Would you have it from twenty to thirty, thirty to forty, forty to fifty, or … give it me when I'm twenty to thirty, man, because like you can enjoy it so much and I have enjoyed it.
“I got up on the stage just to give them a laugh in a in a r uh talent contest. … everybody else left and it was a quite exhilarating feeling.”
“Without those uh the without the seasons in the holiday camps, I don't think I'd have been uh professionally uh as advanced as I was because I was never off a microphone, always talking to people, even if it was Hello, Missus, how are you today? and it's the bingo round the corner and whatever it was, all the time I was on a microphone.”
“I've got a tape of that show [Sunday Night at the London Palladium] and I just sit in my little room at home and put it on the tape recorder and play it. And everything was super.”
“I was at school with George Harrison and John Lennon for a while. … I used to go and see them there. … It was very exciting times.”