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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
A singer praised for his warm, inviting voice and called the best in the business by Fraxinata.
Eight records
The keepsakes
The luxury
In conversation
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What part of New York do you live in?
right now I live right in the heart of New York City, which is Sixty Eighth Street on the east side
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Were times hard as a child?
[times were] ghetto type surroundings
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Who influenced you most as a young singer? Was there any particular artist?
Art Tatum … His phrasing … his whole concept of uh how to treat a popular song.
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When you left the American Theatre Wing, what was the first singing job you had?
The recording
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Uh
Tony Bennett
This download is the only extract the BBC has of this edition of Desert Island Discs. The presenter was Roy Plumley.
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Tenny, you're a New Yorker. What part of New York?
Tony Bennett
Well, right now I li I I live right in the heart of New York City, which is Sixty Eighth Street on the east side and uh
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Are you
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Uh
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Where were you born?
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I was born in Astoria, Long Island.
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Uh an Italian immigrant family. Were times hard as a child? Yes, uh they were ghetto type uh surroundings and uh Was yours a musical family? Yes, very musical. I believe you made your first public appearance when you were six.
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Uh
Tony Bennett
That's right. Yes, that uh was uh with May LaGuardia and uh going over the uh Traborough Bridge in New York City with my brother and we sang Marching Along together. How did you get the job?
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How do you do?
Tony Bennett
Well, it was just uh the neighborhood. We were right at the very corner of the beginning of the Triborough Bridge and the day of the festivities.
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They just chose uh my brother and myself to march along with and cut the ribbon with Mela Guadia and we walked the whole length of the bridge. Great.
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As a youngster, what did you want to be?
Tony Bennett
Just what I'm doing right now, I I've always felt like I'd like to sing and perform for people.
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Uh
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Uh
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Uh
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You did study commercial art for a while. Yes.
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But music was more important.
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Brad.
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The United States entered the war. You joined the infantry. You came to Europe. Where did you serve?
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In Germany.
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Did you visit Britain?
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No, not at that time.
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And when the shooting stopped, what happened?
Tony Bennett
Well, then I I stayed and waited for enough points to get home and uh and what I did was acquire this job with the uh American Forces Network as their musical librarian. And it was a great education for me because uh it I had to take care of about forty five musicians and
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And I learned a lot about music that way.
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I'm sure. Did you get a chance to sing yourself with any of the army bands?
Tony Bennett
Yes, I I with that orchestra that I always did one song a week with the uh American Forces Network orchestra.
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Great.
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Now after those years in uniform you were entitled to some further education at the Government's expense.
Tony Bennett
Yes, the GI Bill of Rights, and I decided and made a very good choice on going to the American Theater Wing.
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And they uh supplied us with some very good teachers and
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on all aspects of the theater and music.
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Yes. Was it always the lighter side of music that interested you? Do did you ever feel you wanted to?
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to tackle Italian opera?
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No, I love I love
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enjoying Italian opera, but uh
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No, I I love uh partly music too much and JS.
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Who influenced you most as as a young singer? Was there any particular artist? Art Teidum.
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His phrasing
Tony Bennett
Yes, his his uh whole concept of uh how to treat a popular song.
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Yes. When you left the American Theatre Wing, what was the the first singing job you had?
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Pearl Bailey hired me. It was with a show that she had in Greenwich Village and uh
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And it was the first real
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what I would call a big time job.
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And Bob Hope came in and saw me and then he took me on tour from
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From that engagement it all seemed to happen at one time.
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Yes. He changed your name, too.
Tony Bennett
That's right. Uh he he felt he didn't know there was a guy called Engelbert Humpedink and he didn't realize that a long name like that could really uh hold up on a marquee. So he said, Let's Americanize your name and he did it right at uh on the spot, uh, backstage at the Paramount Theater and said, Why don't we take Anthony Dominic Benedetto and make it Tony Bennett and just Americanize it and I s and it's been a lucky uh
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Then you didn't realize
Tony Bennett
A lucky name for me, actually.
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What was the next important thing to happen after that Bob Hope tour?
Tony Bennett
Well, I'd signed up uh with uh Columbia Records and got very lucky because the first recording started selling right away and it you know, the salesmen and executives kind of put me in focus and started uh working on my recordings and uh and then uh I've had a very nice career with uh CBS for about twenty years now. What was your first very big one, Stranger in Paradise?
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Yeah.
Tony Bennett
In in uh Britain, yes. But uh in America it was because of you.
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But
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That was a very early one, wasn't it?
Tony Bennett
It was a very early one, wasn't it? Yes, and one before that which started me, which was Boulevard
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A broken dream
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Well, so now the the living was easier. There was plenty of television and hotel dates. But there was one big smash number which immediately took you into the worldwide top bracket, something about um
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San Francisco.
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San Francisco, yes, yes. Now where did you find that number?
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Now why did
Tony Bennett
Well, uh Ralph Sharon, who is now with Robert Goulet, was my musical director at the time. And he suggested this song. We were on our way we were down south in Hot Springs, Arkansas, and we were on our way to San Francisco and he suggested this as a
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special song for the Fairmont Hotel. Mhm. And I thought it was a good idea and at the rehearsal
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Of the fair amount they
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Uh everybody became just ex so excited over it and we thought it would be a very good local song.
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But it we had no idea that it would break internationally like it did.
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Indeed, the San Francisco Tourist Board were duly grateful.
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There is now, I believe, a Tony Bennett Day in the city.
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And they gave you a trolley car, a tram.
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Uh Right.
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Yeah.
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Uh
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Uh
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Still trying to find out what to do with it, but
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Ha ha ha.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When did you make your first tour over here, Tony?
Tony Bennett
Well that was nineteen fifty four.
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Mm. And now you come over every year.
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But yes, and I love it here.
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very often with Count Basie, and you've played two Royal Variety performances.
Tony Bennett
Yes.
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And you've been over here taping some television shows. How far ahead do you plan your life, your working life?
Tony Bennett
Well, about every thirteen weeks.
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Uh
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Really? You you play it off the cuff like that. You don't have a date book that goes two or three years ahead.
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Ben would
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Right. I kind of uh
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I personally like the unexpected and uh I don't like to preplan.
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My life too long ahead.
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Now, Tony, how do you build your act? Do you like to start with a bash and then slow down in the middle, or do you start easy and do a steady build-up? What kind of.
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Pattern
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Yeah.
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Uh
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Trying to g
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Steal my act or something. No, actually I do start out easy and then build. It's uh I think that's more palatable for the audience. I sense that it's much better than crashing them over the head.
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Yeah.
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You've done a one man evening at the Carnegie Hall, New York. In London you sold out your last festival hall concert in what, just over half an hour, wasn't it?
Tony Bennett
Yes, that's fair.
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You are a very relaxed person, seemingly, both on stage and off. Do you ever get nervous?
Tony Bennett
Well, it's almost a
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a myth about the fact that a performer gets nervous. I think
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We run into a bit of uh semantics with that one word because
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It's not
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I think the word is care rather than nervousness, you know. Thi this business of butterflies before a show. If you don't get that feeling
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If you don't have that care about how it's going to go over.
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Something misses in the performance. I become very disturbed if I'm very relaxed and and don't even think about
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how it's going to go over. So if I don't feel these butterflies, I don't consider them nervousness. I just it's almost like an alarm that goes off in my brain and says, This is it. You're going on the stage now and uh let's hope it appears effortless and that the audience enjoys it.
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Do you still draw and paint?
Tony Bennett
Yes, that's my hobby.
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Now you're on top of the world. Where would you like to go from here? Is there any one
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big idea you've got at the back of your mind.
Tony Bennett
I would like to just uh keep doing exactly what I'm doing, but I'd like to hone it. I'd like to widen whatever I know now.
Pearl Bailey hired me. It was with a show that she had in Greenwich Village … it was the first real what I would call a big time job.
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What was the next important thing to happen after that Bob Hope tour?
I'd signed up uh with Columbia Records and got very lucky because the first recording started selling right away … and then uh I've had a very nice career with CBS for about twenty years now.
Presenter asks
How do you build your act? Do you like to start with a bash and then slow down in the middle, or do you start easy and do a steady build-up?
I do start out easy and then build. It's uh I think that's more palatable for the audience. I sense that it's much better than crashing them over the head.
“I've always felt like I'd like to sing and perform for people.”
“I personally like the unexpected and uh I don't like to preplan my life too long ahead.”
“I think the word is care rather than nervousness, you know. This business of butterflies before a show. If you don't get that feeling … Something misses in the performance.”
“I would like to just uh keep doing exactly what I'm doing, but I'd like to hone it. I'd like to widen whatever I know now.”