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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
An opera and oratorio soprano who won the Kathleen Ferrier Memorial Prize and sang with Sir Malcolm Sargent at the Royal Albert Hall.
Eight records
GUEST: What part of the country do you come from? PRESENTER: My parents both sing, and my mother was a professional singer. GUEST: So the house was always full of music. PRESENTER: Always full of music. I knew nothing else from being in my cradle.
PRESENTER: about five years after that I auditioned for [Sir Malcolm Sargent] for the Brahms Requiem, for the concert at the Royal Albert Hall, and he gave me the performance, and I was so excited.
PRESENTER: my very first [opera] was I was in the chorus of William Tell, and I thought, 'Well, this is absolutely marvellous' and it really started my love of opera.
PRESENTER: I loved Constanza in Entführung… the Serail, yes, which is probably better known in England as Serail.
PRESENTER: And also Susannah in Figaro.
PRESENTER: In at the beginning of '67 in Arabella as the Fiakermilli.
PRESENTER: we're in the middle of recording The Merry Widow. Von Karajan is doing it.
The keepsakes
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In conversation
Presenter asks
When did you decide you wanted to be a professional singer?
Well, I'd be about sixteen, seventeen, I suppose, that I thought I'd like to sing and I remember so well a friend taking me to Leeds to hear Sir Malcolm Sargent. He was, I think, conducting the Philemonia. Oh, I was so excited, I never heard anything like this. And this friend of mine knew him through a cousin or through some relation, so we were able to meet Sir Malcolm afterwards and he invited us to go and have a meal with him. And I remember so well telling him and saying to him, 'Oh, Sir Malcolm, I'm going to sing with you one day. I'm going to be a singer.' And he said, 'Yes, of course you are, of course, I'm sure you are.' … it was about five years after that that I auditioned for him for the Brahms Requiem, for the concert at the Royal Albert Hall, and he gave me the performance, and I was so excited.
Presenter asks
At college, where did your ambitions lie: oratorio, concert platform, opera?
I think certainly of the concert platform and oratorio. Well, I was brought up with oratorio, so I think that was my first love. But it was the principal of the Royal Manchester College, Frederick Cox, who gave me my love of opera, because he used to put on these marvellous operas every year with the college, with students. And my very first one was I was in the chorus of William Tell, and I thought, 'Well, this is absolutely marvellous' and it really started my love of opera.
The recording
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Elizabeth Harwood
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Presenter
What part of the country do you come from?
Elizabeth Harwood
I was born um at a place called Barton Seagrave, near Kettering in Northamptonshire. But when I was nine or ten months old, I went to live in Yorkshire, near Skipton, a a a a place called Emcey.
Elizabeth Harwood
And, um
Elizabeth Harwood
My father was born in Scarborough. He's a Yorkshireman, and I lived there for twenty three years, twenty two, twenty three years. So really I think of myself as being Yorkshire.
Speaker 2
Yes, and
Elizabeth Harwood
And proud of it.
Speaker 2
Good, good. And you come from a very musical family.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yes, I do. Yes, I do. My my parents both sing, and my mother was a professional singer.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth Harwood
I think my grandmother had a lovely voice, too.
Presenter
So the house was always full of music.
Elizabeth Harwood
Always full of music. I I knew nothing else from being in my cradle.
Presenter
What was your first contribution to the musical activities?
Elizabeth Harwood
I started to play the piano at about five, then I took up the violin at school about ten or eleven.
Presenter
Then I took
Elizabeth Harwood
Double bass too. Double bass. For fun.
Presenter
Double base.
Presenter
Yeah. When did singing come into the picture?
Elizabeth Harwood
About I think I was about fifteen, sixteen, when I I knew I'd got a voice, but my mother wasn't madly keen letting me start too soon. Bless her, she was quite right, really. I wanted to, but she's I think she sort of knew better.
Presenter
I won't
Presenter
When did you decide you wanted to be a professional singer?
Elizabeth Harwood
Well, I'd be about sixteen, seventeen, I suppose, that I thought I'd like to to to sing and I remember so well a friend taking me to Leeds to hear Sir Malcolm Sargent. He was, I think, conducting the Philemonia.
Elizabeth Harwood
Oh, I was so excited, I never heard anything like this. And um
Elizabeth Harwood
This friend of mine knew him through a cousin or through some relation, so we were able to meet Sir Malcolm afterwards and he invited us to go and have a meal with him. And I remember so well telling him and saying to him, Oh, Sir Malcolm, I'm going to sing with you one day. I'm going to be a singer. And he said, Yes, of course you are, of course, I'm sure you are. This little girl of sixteen, saying she was going to be a real aspirant, to be a real singer. However, it was about five years after that that I auditioned for him for the Brahms Requiem, for the concert at the Royal Albert Hall, and he gave me the performance, and I was so excited. And I reminded him of this. And he actually did remember taking these two youngsters to this restaurant in Leeds.
Presenter
Oh good. What was your very first public appearance as a singer?
Elizabeth Harwood
I think when I substituted for my mother, she was going to sing a Messiah in a small village in Yorkshire, probably a town by now, and um she couldn't go because she was I think she had a cold or something, but she said I'll send my daughter.
Elizabeth Harwood
And I I think my fee was a guinea, but they gave me twenty five shillings.
Presenter
Bravo
Presenter
Where did you study?
Elizabeth Harwood
I went to the Royal Manchester College of Music.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth Harwood
When I was eighteen.
Presenter
When I was eighteen. Yes. At at college, where did your ambitions lie? Oratorio, concert platform, opera?
Elizabeth Harwood
I think certainly of the concert platform and Oratorio. Well, I was brought up with Oratorio, so I think that was my first love.
Elizabeth Harwood
But it was the principal of the Rollmaster College, Frederick Cox, who gave me my love of opera, because he used to put on these marvellous operas every year with the college, with students. And my very first one was I was in the chorus of William Tell, and I thought, Well, this is absolutely marvellous and it really started my love of opera.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
Well, at the end of your college career you won the Kathleen Ferrier Memorial Prize, a very coveted award. Now what doors did that open?
Elizabeth Harwood
Well, mainly, I think, with most of the world, a lot of the big call societies and London societies, which was always a wonderful thing for us to come to London. And I came then to live in London. After I had this first engagement with Sargent, he told me I should come and live in London.
Elizabeth Harwood
And I did, and it I auditioned shortly afterwards for Sad as Wells, and they started me.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth Harwood
on a th three-year contract. My first role was was Giller in Rigoletto.
Presenter
Which roads did you enjoy most, Ed? said Lizzie's Elizabeth.
Elizabeth Harwood
Oh, I think the the Cantosinori and um
Elizabeth Harwood
I loved Constanza in entfiorung.
Speaker 2
And the
Elizabeth Harwood
In in the yes, in the Seralia, yes, yes, which is probably better better known in England, isn't it? In as Seralia.
Elizabeth Harwood
And also Susannah in in Figaro. Oh, and I must of course mention Arlancey, because we had a marvellous time with with Arlance. We had we when the copyright expired we did it. Oh, it it was great fun.
Presenter
Yeah. And you were also doing concert work of course, proms and so on.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yeah.
Presenter
And when you left Adlers Welsh?
Elizabeth Harwood
Well, then I I left um to go to to do this tour with Joan Sutherland of of um
Elizabeth Harwood
Australia.
Presenter
Yes. Oh this was Joan Sutherland's triumphant return home after she became a star, an international star.
Elizabeth Harwood
That's right, after she became a star. She was a natural star. It was terribly exciting. The whole thing.
Presenter
And that was the beginning of a tremendous amount of travelling for you, which is, of course, still going on.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yes, there's
Presenter
Where did your European travels take you first?
Elizabeth Harwood
I think, um
Elizabeth Harwood
Well, Brussels I did my first messiah abroad.
Elizabeth Harwood
But, possibly with the Aces and Galatea, we took it to Drottningholm in Sweden.
Presenter
Yes, a gorgeous old theatre that has hardly changed, I believe, since the eighteenth century.
Elizabeth Harwood
And then I'll
Elizabeth Harwood
Oh yeah.
Elizabeth Harwood
It's superb. It really is with the old fashioned waves and absolutely perfect for that, of course, too, the for the Aces. And then we took that on to Versailles outside Paris in the eighteenth century theatre there, which also was
Presenter
And they
Elizabeth Harwood
the perfect setting. And from that then of course came um Aix-en-Provence, Salzburg and and and so on.
Presenter
Yes. Now, you were the first English lady to sing Starling Rolls at the Salzburg Festival.
Elizabeth Harwood
I think so, yes, the two, those the cuzy and the antifurum, yes, the serrario.
Presenter
Exactly.
Presenter
Well, the export of singers is now a major British industry. This is magnificent.
Elizabeth Harwood
It's in it's incredible now. I mean there are there are so many really first rate English singers.
Elizabeth Harwood
Oh, diet. It's marvelous, of course.
Presenter
When had you made your cotton garden debut?
Elizabeth Harwood
In At the Beginning of'Sixty Seven' in Arabella as the Fiacomelli.
Presenter
Yeah.
Elizabeth Harwood
Which was a fun part.
Elizabeth Harwood
It was I I went we did it also in uh Munich the same year. It wasn't quite me, but at least it was a start at Covent Garden.
Presenter
And since then?
Elizabeth Harwood
In Covent Can
Presenter
Yeah.
Elizabeth Harwood
Um since then Rigoletto, the midsummer marriage
Elizabeth Harwood
Oh, um Oscar and Ballet Masculine. I enjoyed that, I must say.
Presenter
And John
Presenter
And of course you do a United States tour every year.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yes, um it's a long way to go, but it is they're they're wonderful audiences. I must say they're very warm people.
Presenter
Yes. Have you yet done opera in America?
Elizabeth Harwood
No, I make my debut there in Cosifantuti next year in in San Francisco.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
And you brought off a nice double on BBC television at Christmastime by singing in Messiah and by singing all four soprano parts in The Tales of Halfman.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yes, yes.
Elizabeth Harwood
I enjoyed making Masa. That was fun, because the Ely Cathedral is so beautiful.
Elizabeth Harwood
Um
Elizabeth Harwood
The Tales of Hoffman? Well, I yes, I enjoyed it. I'm I don't particularly care for watching what see watching myself, but uh it was fun making it. I must say we had uh we I enjoyed it very much.
Presenter
And it's being shown all over the world now.
Elizabeth Harwood
Evidently, so I've I've been told, yes.
Presenter
What are you up to? What's in the book at the moment?
Elizabeth Harwood
At the moment well, we've we're in the middle of recording The Merry Widow. Von Karian is doing it. It we're making it in Berlin. And we we finish it off in June.
Elizabeth Harwood
Um and we now do a new production at the Scala of
Elizabeth Harwood
And Furong of Soralio. And um this the we I go about the end of April and we do the first nights about the eighth eighth of May, something like that.
Elizabeth Harwood
which will be very interesting,'cause it's my first time at the Scala.
Elizabeth Harwood
And so I'm looking forward to it very much.
Presenter
I should think so. Now, how does all this travelling fit in with raising a family? You have a young son.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yes, I have. Well
Elizabeth Harwood
I'm very fortunate in the fact that I've got my parents living with me, and I don't worry quite so much now as I did, because there I know I can go away and leave him.
Presenter
Of course.
Elizabeth Harwood
With in wonderful hands.
Presenter
All you've got to worry about is how much they'll spoil him before you get there.
Elizabeth Harwood
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Elizabeth Harwood
Oh, he loves that.
Presenter asks
When you won the Kathleen Ferrier Memorial Prize, what doors did that open?
Well, mainly, I think, with most of the world, a lot of the big choral societies and London societies, which was always a wonderful thing for us to come to London. And I came then to live in London. After I had this first engagement with Sargent, he told me I should come and live in London. And I did, and I auditioned shortly afterwards for Sadler's Wells, and they started me on a three-year contract. My first role was Gilda in Rigoletto.
Presenter asks
When you left Sadler's Wells, you joined Joan Sutherland's tour of Australia? How did that come about?
Well, then I left to go to do this tour with Joan Sutherland of Australia. … after she became a star. She was a natural star. It was terribly exciting. The whole thing.
Presenter asks
Where did your European travels take you first?
Well, Brussels I did my first Messiah abroad. But, possibly with Acis and Galatea, we took it to Drottningholm in Sweden. … It's superb. It really is with the old-fashioned [scenery] and absolutely perfect for that, of course, too, for Acis. And then we took that on to Versailles outside Paris in the eighteenth century theatre there, which also was the perfect setting. And from that then of course came Aix-en-Provence, Salzburg and so on.
Presenter asks
How does all this travelling fit in with raising a family? You have a young son.
I'm very fortunate in the fact that I've got my parents living with me, and I don't worry quite so much now as I did, because I know I can go away and leave him with in wonderful hands.
“I knew nothing else from being in my cradle.”
“I remember so well telling him and saying to him, 'Oh, Sir Malcolm, I'm going to sing with you one day. I'm going to be a singer.' And he said, 'Yes, of course you are, of course, I'm sure you are.'”
“My very first opera was I was in the chorus of William Tell, and I thought, 'Well, this is absolutely marvellous' and it really started my love of opera.”
“I don't particularly care for watching myself, but it was fun making it.”
“I'm very fortunate in the fact that I've got my parents living with me, and I don't worry quite so much now as I did, because I know I can go away and leave him with in wonderful hands.”