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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
Left his building society job in Stroud and walked to London with his violin, then travelled to Spain and lived through the Spanish Civil War.
Eight records
The keepsakes
No book or luxury recorded for this episode.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Did you ever go hungry, or did that violin always work its magic?
What was the charm of Spain at that time [was] that they always had, no matter how poor they were, they always had a penny for music. Music was a kind of credit card, shall we say it? It... admitted you to any circle... and because it was a symbol of music, the hard, poverty stricken faces softened and they always find something for you to eat or a place for you to sleep. So I... was hungry because they were hungry.
“I walked to London and I took my violin. 'Cause I had an instinct that perhaps with my [violin] I could make enough to live on.”
“Music was a kind of credit card, shall we say it? It... admitted you to any circle. It admitted you to a family, admitted you to a wedding, or to just a little group sitting in the shade in the afternoon”
“It was one of the happiest and perhaps in many ways most satisfying and innocent times of my life.”
The recording
Timestamps play the recording from that turn
Speaker 1
BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. Hello, I'm Lauren Laverne, and this is the Desert Island Discs podcast. This is the only extract the BBC has of this episode. The surviving recording did not include the music, so we've recreated the programme, adding the castaways' choices. For rights reasons, the music is shorter than on the original broadcast. The presenter is Roy Plomley. I hope you enjoy listening.
Laurie Lee
I got my job in an office.
Laurie Lee
uh building society office in Stroud.
Laurie Lee
And I was being sort of kicked around, made to make tea and so on. I thought, well, I can't stand it.
Laurie Lee
I must be free.
Laurie Lee
So I do I
Laurie Lee
Wrote a note to the boss and said, I don't think much help to your
Laurie Lee
organization ongoing.
Laurie Lee
So I left Stroud, like many young men before me, and thought, what an obvious place to go is London.
Laurie Lee
I walked to London and I took my violin.
Laurie Lee
'Cause I had an instinct that perhaps with my Vanan I could make enough to live on.
Laurie Lee
And it took me a month to get to London.
Laurie Lee
Because I went along the south coast and I played in Littlehampton, in Worthing, and Brighton and so on. Playing in the street. Playing in the street, uh when the police went there. And I found I was able to make enough to live by, even in those days, the days of the Depression. You took a job when you got to London? When I got to London, uh I got a job as a labourer.
Laurie Lee
I wasn't really very good at laying concrete floors, but I enjoyed it for a year. Then you decided to take to the roads of Spain. Had you any money to set out with? I had saved up about eight quid, and most of that went on the journey to Vigo. I took a ship from Tilbury to Vigo, and I landed with a few shillings and my violin.
Laurie Lee
hoping to live as I had in Little Hampton or Worthing.
Laurie Lee
And strangely enough it worked. I was there for 13 months.
Laurie Lee
What's your second choice?
Speaker 4
Halley, holly!
Speaker 4
Ba-balinte, bamba-valise!
Speaker 4
I
Speaker 4
And here is your
Laurie Lee
Am I, that way?
Presenter
Let's have record number three now.
Speaker 4
Please don't make them up for now.
Speaker 4
Cosopatia sovereign.
Speaker 1
We also need
Speaker 4
He knows the baby, oh no, finger.
Speaker 4
It was the favourite toy of the film.
Presenter
Did you ever go hungry, or or did that violin always work its magic?
Laurie Lee
What was the charm of Spain at that time that they always had, no matter how poor they were, they always had a penny for music. Music was a kind of
Laurie Lee
Credit card, shall we say it? It it admitted you to any circle. It admitted you to a family, admitted you to a wedding, or to just a little group sitting in the shade in the afternoon and there was always a penny or there was some eggs or there was some biscuits or there was a tortilla or there was something. And just you just produced the violin.
Laurie Lee
and because it was a symbol of music,
Laurie Lee
the hard, poverty stricken faces softened and they always find something for you to eat or a place for you to sleep. So I I was hung I was hungry because they were hungry.
Speaker 1
Yeah.
Laurie Lee
But I I never stopped.
Laurie Lee
I lived rough.
Laurie Lee
What happened? I mean, what the tragedy of this? It was one of the happiest and perhaps in many ways most satisfying and innocent times of my life.
Speaker 1
But
Laurie Lee
But it ended in the national tragedy of the Spanish Civil War, which caught me while I was still there. I didn't know it was coming.
Laurie Lee
And uh at the end of my uh
Laurie Lee
The Spanish War blew up.
Laurie Lee
And that was the end of my time.