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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Lauren Laverne
Singer and actor known for Miss Saigon; first Asian woman to win a Tony for acting; first to voice two Disney princesses.
Eight records
Just whenever Julie opens her mouth, it's like finely spun threads of gold
I've always regarded this woman as having one of the most perfect singing voices on the planet.
It made me stop. And watch, and I remember not being able to move. Because it was lightning in a bottle.
Chismis, translating to gossip, is basically a sonic representation of what gossip is. It is chaotic.
I just like the way Monsieur Entremont played it. It was just so calming and beautiful.
Even if you don't understand a lick of the lyric, I think you'll appreciate just the music. It's really good music.
It's this gorgeous song from a mother to her child and it's just so emotional and hits right at the center of the heart.
SnoozeFavourite
He wrote it, I believe, as something that he wants to say to other young people... there is a line in the song where over and over again he repeats, Everything will be okay.
The keepsakes
The book
Gary Larson
It's just how he looks at life. It's silly and ludicrous and absolutely perfect, and you need to have a laugh.
The luxury
I like journaling and I like and in high school and for part of college I used a typewriter. There's something about hearing the keys as they hit the carriage as you're, you know, getting your thoughts out.
In conversation
Presenter asks
What's usually going through your mind when you're up there in the spotlight?
I try to make my brain do the equivalent of ... the memory zapper. ... Do that because you cannot give an identical performance from the night before. ... what I try to do is just to make sure that that moment's emotional truth is played.
Presenter asks
What are your memories of life in Angelo City?
Living in Angela City, it was a single-level house, and we had a big front yard and a big backyard, and she would host our birthday parties and her friends would come, and her friends would bring their kids who were around the same age. I just remember balloons. I remember the food always being good. And I just remember my mother creating a very ideal childhood.
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Presenter
BBC Sounds, Music, Radio Podcasts. Hello, I'm Lauren Laverne, and this is the Desert Island Discs Podcast. Every week, I ask my guests to choose the eight tracks, book, and luxury they'd want to take with them if they were cast away to a desert island. And, for rights reasons, the music is shorter than the original broadcast. I hope you enjoy listening.
Presenter
My castaway this week is the singer and actor Leia Salonga, one of the most successful performers the Philippines has ever produced. Her perfect pitch and prodigious talent were spotted early. She became a star in her own country before she hit double figures with a T V show and a hit record of her own. As a teenager, she planned to leave show business behind and become a doctor, but before she could finish her course at university she was spotted by the team behind Lehmis Arabla, who were on a global search for the lead in their new musical, Miss Saigon. She went on to win international recognition for her performance as Kim at the age of just 18, with an Olivier in London and a Tony Award on Broadway.
Presenter
She has made history many times. She was the first Asian woman to win a Tony for an acting role, the first Asian actor to star in Les Miserable, the first Filipino artist to sign a record deal with an international label, and the first person to voice two different Disney princesses, Aladdin's Jasmine and Mulan. This summer, she notched up two more landmarks in the same Broadway theatre where she began her international career. For the first time, she's playing a Filipino character on stage, and she was part of the first all-Filipino cast in Broadway history. But while she is accomplished at breaking boundaries, she's more concerned with keeping time. She says, the only thing I thought about was just nail the song, nail the role, and that'll be enough. Don't think of yourself as the first anything. Leah Salonga, welcome to Desert Island Discs. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here. Leah, you have spent a lifetime on stage. You've performed everywhere. And for audiences including the late Queen, the Oscars, back on Broadway recently here in the West End, what's usually going through your mind when you're up there in the spotlight?
Lea Salonga
I try to make my brain do the equivalent of you ever see the movie Men in Black where there's that thing and to make them forget the memory zapper. The memory zapper, exactly. So I kind of.
Speaker 1
Yeah.
Presenter
There's that
Speaker 1
Uh
Presenter
And what's up?
Lea Salonga
Do that because you cannot give an identical performance from the night before.
Lea Salonga
Even if you do the exact same thing, it's not going to be Groundhog Day. There's a lot going on, but what I try to do is just to make sure that that moment's emotional truth.
Lea Salonga
is played and then hopefully that you know
Presenter
You know, it reaches the audience. Well, Leia, let's get started. We'd love to hear your first disc. What is it, and why have you chosen it?
Lea Salonga
Ah, it's Yeah.
Lea Salonga
Feed Birds sung by the incomparable
Lea Salonga
Julie Andrews from the Mary Poppins film soundtrack. And there are so many popular songs that came.
Lea Salonga
from that one film and
Lea Salonga
Just whenever Julie opens her mouth, it's like finely spun threads of gold, and you can almost
Lea Salonga
See it as it's happening. And I've loved her as a musical theater and film musical icon pretty much forever, ever since my childhood. And you've worked with her. You've met her. And I've gotten to work with her a couple of times. The first time I actually worked with her was when I met her. It was for a King and I.
Lea Salonga
album with her playing Anna and Ben Kingsley playing The King and I was Tuptim and Peebo Bryson was Lunta.
Lea Salonga
And I remember walking into a studio, and this was in Los Angeles. It was a Hollywood Bull Orchestra, and John Mauchery was conducting. And I remember going into the studio, meeting her, thinking I was about to disintegrate when I shook her hand and I said, hello, Miss Andrews. And she said, just call me Julie. I was like, and a puddle on the floor because she was just kind. And just her looking into your face, it was kind and lovely. And if you're a musical theater fan that loved her voice and still loves her voice, whatever you imagine her to be.
Lea Salonga
is exactly what she is.
Speaker 4
The birds toppin' sag Toppins, toppin', toppin' bag
Speaker 4
To the birds, that's what she cries While overhead her birds fill the skies
Speaker 1
Uh
Presenter
Julie Andrews and Feed the Birds from the soundtrack to Mary Poppins.
Presenter
Leia Salonga, let's go back to the beginning. You were born in the Philippines in nineteen seventy one, but I know that you spent the first few years of your life in Angelo City in Pampanga. What are your memories of life there?
Presenter
I re
Lea Salonga
Remember.
Lea Salonga
Living in Angela City, it was a single-level house, and we had a big front yard and a big backyard, and she would host.
Lea Salonga
Our birthday parties and
Lea Salonga
Her friends would come, and her friends would bring their kids who were around the same age. I just remember balloons. I remember the food always being good.
Lea Salonga
And I just remember my mother
Lea Salonga
Creating a very ideal
Lea Salonga
Childhood
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
Yeah.
Presenter
It was the year after you were born that martial law was declared.
Lea Salonga
I think living in the province was helpful outside of the action, far away from protests and bombings and all of that kind of stuff.
Presenter
I think it was your mum who spotted your talent for singing. You were very young, just three, but she felt you had something special.
Lea Salonga
She said that the lyrics weren't always right, but as far as melodies, those were things that were spot on really early. And she said that I would get up on the living room table
Lea Salonga
And hold the end of a plug and use it as a microphone as if I was having a concert.
Lea Salonga
She saw that there m possibly was
Lea Salonga
Something special to make of it and small enough
Presenter
And motivated enough to actually do it because it really was her who kick-started your career. How did it happen? What did she?
Lea Salonga
Regal was
Lea Salonga
Oh, yeah.
Lea Salonga
You do. This one cousin, her name is Rhea, she was very active with Repertory Philippines, which was the theater company I ended up making my stage debut with. She said to my mom,
Lea Salonga
You'd better bring her to these auditions. They're looking for children for a production of The King and I, and I think Leia would be great for this. So I think the director saw that I was a very sassy child and loud and could sing. So, with all those qualities.
Presenter
I got hired. And is it true that she actually would have records pressed if you were singing and take them shop to shop? Yeah, I guess sh.
Lea Salonga
The light bulb went off in her head.
Lea Salonga
I see potential in this child, so
Lea Salonga
She booked recording studio time.
Lea Salonga
She had a few units pressed of these vinyls, and they would be packaged, and she would go from one music shop to the next on this street called Raon in the city of Manila. There would be shop after shop after shop, and she would go to each one of them.
Lea Salonga
Would you be interested in maybe
Lea Salonga
Having this in your inventory, this is my daughter, and this is her singing these songs. This is after she tried to shop it to recording companies, all of whom said no to her in her face. So she took matters into her own hands and marketed everything herself. And oh, the vindication happened when these stores started calling her and asking, Would you please replenish our supply? Because they kinda disappeared and we are now out of stock.
Presenter
Very good business sense in this woman. Leia, it's time for more music. Your second choice today. What's it gonna be and why are you taking it with you to the island? This is Days and Days.
Lea Salonga
Sung by
Lea Salonga
One of my favorite musical theater voices, Judy Kuhn, also another Disney princess who was the singing voice for Pocahontas. I've always regarded this woman as having one of the most perfect singing voices on the planet.
Speaker 4
Days and days and days. That's how it happens. Days and days and days.
Speaker 1
Daisy
Speaker 4
Made of posing and bragging and fits of rage And boys, my God, some of them underage And oh how did it all happen here? There was a time
Speaker 1
And oh how
Speaker 4
Your father swept me off my feet with words
Presenter
Days and days. Judy Kuhn, tell me a bit about your father. How would you describe your relationship?
Lea Salonga
With him. Interesting. I mean, I've always seen him as incredibly.
Lea Salonga
Intelligent. He was a polyglot. He learned Russian in Russian club in university just because he was one of those people. He spoke five languages. I barely can manage with two. Graduated one of the top in his class in university, but as my mom would say, did not have the best business sense.
Lea Salonga
She had her street smarts. He was very book smart. According to members of his family, oh, he was such a star when he walked into the room, as in he walked into a room and all the very charismatic which got him in trouble with women.
Speaker 1
To a room and all the
Lea Salonga
Yeah, so he and your mother never married? No, they never did. There's a part of me that's.
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
Glad about that.
Presenter
Ha ha.
Presenter
It's time for your next piece of music layer salonga, disc number three. What have you got for us and why are you taking it with you? This is Billie Jean.
Lea Salonga
By Michael Jackson. When I saw the Motown 25 performance of Billie Jean.
Lea Salonga
It made me stop.
Lea Salonga
And watch, and I remember not being able to move.
Lea Salonga
Because it was lightning in a bottle.
Lea Salonga
This was beyond talent.
Speaker 4
Keep the sky.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 4
My son
Presenter
Michael Jackson and Billie Jean. Leia Salonga, in 1989 a new musical was created. Miss Saigon. It's a retelling of Puccini's Madam Butterfly and the producers were on an international search for someone to play the lead, Kim. Now by this point you were 17 and starting to move away from performing. You were actually at university studying with plans to qualify as a doctor. You resisted auditioning at first. Why?
Lea Salonga
Well, when you have parents that tell you this whole showbiz thing, it's fickle, they were being responsible parents and and telling me you need to go to university, you need to make sure you have a degree, you need to make sure that you'll be able to take care of yourself as an adult. Exactly. So and as a 17-year-old, I've seen artists be popular one minute and then disappear the next. So those are things that sh
Presenter
Shape your plans. The audition process lasted a few weeks and it culminated with you being flown to London, and there you got the part. You'd had quite a sheltered upbringing and never been in a romantic relationship. Suddenly you were playing a sex worker who then becomes a single parent. How on earth did you prepare for the role?
Lea Salonga
numerous ways. But one of the funniest was just watching my mother try to explain to me exactly what I needed to do. It's it's it's really uncomfortable.
Lea Salonga
And I was not getting a lot of help from other members of the company either, because I would ask the question, What is it like to fall in love with someone?
Lea Salonga
And the only answer I would get was, Oh, you know when it happens. How is that helpful to me in in figuring out the mechanics of
Lea Salonga
How I'm supposed to
Lea Salonga
Physically react to any of this until one day in tech, and I still wasn't really delivering what the production and creative team wanted me to do. So finally, I think Nick Heitner.
Lea Salonga
I had finally just had it. He's like, Leah, get off the bed. Just get off the bed. Like, okay. And I stood there in front of it.
Lea Salonga
He got on it. Simon Bowman, who was playing Chris.
Lea Salonga
is in the bed and Nick demonstrates what he wants me to do.
Lea Salonga
Good on Simon for being a really good sport.
Lea Salonga
But good on Nick for finally physicalizing what the expectation was. And I think from there, that just kind of did everything. Because up until that point, it was: we need you to be really passionate. We need to. But as far as I was concerned, these are words that had no meaning. You didn't have the context for it. I had no idea. I had no concept. I had nothing. Even if I have the most gentle and protective leading man in the West End ever at the time, never once took advantage of.
Presenter
Contacts for it, because you haven't been passionate.
Lea Salonga
His position. He was always, always protective and respectful. But I needed Nick Heitner to do that demo.
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
I think we better have some more music there. Disc number four. What's it? Disc number four. Oh, this is one of my favorite tracks. I definitely wanted to.
Presenter
Guess number
Lea Salonga
Have music from home.
Lea Salonga
on this list. And this is a track called Chismis. Chismis, translating to gossip, is basically a sonic representation of what gossip is.
Lea Salonga
It is chaotic. And it was created by an artist and a musical director and a composer named Rayan Kaibiab, with whom I've had the wonderful fortune of getting to work with.
Speaker 4
Kuti Kuta, Cookie Kuti Kutakoti Kukita, Kita, Uina Kita Kita, Kumuku Kuti Kuta, Cookyu Kuti Kutako Tiko Kita, Kita, Kita.
Speaker 4
I'm not sure if I can do it.
Speaker 4
Ah, beef bee-ba!
Speaker 1
Number one.
Speaker 4
Alamu Ban, Si Sino, Yung Sani, Hilion, Esinong Hilalamu, Si.
Speaker 1
Yeah.
Presenter
I'm not sure if I can do it.
Presenter
See you come on.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Presenter
Ah, very good. Ryan Kayabiab. Leah Salunga, Miss Saigon was an instant hit when it started in the West End in 1989. Massive hit. Rave Reviews. You won an Olivier. Transferred to Broadway and producer Cameron McIntosh wanted you to reprise the role there. But when you arrived there, you did come up against some resistance because the Actors Equity Association, they wanted the part of Kim to go to an Asian American actress. It was a bit of a storm. How did it feel for you to be at the center of it?
Speaker 1
We'll pick
Speaker 1
And they
Lea Salonga
show in December of nineteen ninety. So not long before I wu was gonna leave the show here, he said, So this is what's happening. We're gonna try to bring you over to Broadway.
Lea Salonga
And we're doing everything that we can to make this happen.
Lea Salonga
But be aware?
Lea Salonga
That
Lea Salonga
We may not make it happen. So he was just very matter of fact about it. Called me and my mom into his office. And I said, you know what? For everything that you've done for me thus far, I really can't ask for anything more. I will make plans to maybe start drama school here in London if the Broadway thing doesn't work out. You know, don't worry. We're just so grateful for everything.
Lea Salonga
And, you know, what happens? I'm in the Philippines. It's around mid-January.
Lea Salonga
I hear a knock on my bedroom door. My father opens it. All he says to me is You're going to New York.
Lea Salonga
So much for my plan.
Presenter
I shouldn't just ever make plans, like ever. I mean, literally, stop now. Miss Saigon it's wasn't the only controversy connected to the show. It has in the past been accused of racism for its depiction of Vietnamese people, misogyny because of the way women are portrayed in the show.
Lea Salonga
It's like ever.
Speaker 1
It's depending.
Lea Salonga
Right.
Presenter
How aware were you of the politics around it then, and how do you reflect on it now, I wonder? Is there a difference there?
Lea Salonga
I reflect
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
I've done it in many different ways. I tried to shield myself.
Lea Salonga
From a lot of the controversy, especially during rehearsals, because my job was.
Lea Salonga
This is a role. I need to do this. And that is that. This is the job I was hired to do. This is exactly the task that I have at hand.
Speaker 1
Hired to do.
Lea Salonga
And I'm going to do it to the best of my ability.
Lea Salonga
Full stop. That's it.
Lea Salonga
And as a couple of my friends have pointed out, if you look at things in context.
Lea Salonga
We have to place it in a historical context. Women were not always treated so well. And this is a country in the middle of a war.
Lea Salonga
And this is how women are treated. Lea, it's time for your fifth disc.
Presenter
What are we going to hear?
Lea Salonga
Uh Gymnopedie Number One by Eric Sati, played by Philip Entremont. I was like searching for which version
Lea Salonga
Should I
Lea Salonga
bring to the island. And I just like the way Monsieur Entremont played it. It was just so calming and beautiful.
Presenter
Gymnopody No. One by Eric Sati, played by Philippe Entremont.
Presenter
Leah Solonga, even though you left Miss Saigon with an Olivier and Tony award in the bag, you have said that you struggled to find work for a while afterwards.
Lea Salonga
What was going on? Well, I remember
Lea Salonga
My agent at the time wanting to send me out on auditions, and then there was one in particular for another show. He said, I'm going to send you out for this, and I said,
Lea Salonga
I don't know if I'm the right vocal for this, because it was a much older, more traditional Broadway musical.
Lea Salonga
Ten minutes later, he calls me back and he says, Oh, they're not going to see you because you're Asian.
Lea Salonga
because you're not the right ethnic background for this role. And I went, o o It was quite a quite an awakening this realization that even though you have a Tony Award in your hand or all these other awards on your mantle,
Lea Salonga
Doesn't matter. At the end of the day, if you're not the right type, if you're not the right race, if you're not the right whatever.
Lea Salonga
You're not even going to be seen to audition for something. But not long after that, I got a call.
Lea Salonga
From Cameron's office in New York. This is Cameron Mystery.
Presenter
Yeah.
Speaker 4
Uh
Lea Salonga
to ask asking if I could take a meeting.
Lea Salonga
with Richard J. Alexander, who was working in Cameron's office at the time, taking care of Les Miz on Broadway.
Lea Salonga
And so I was in
Lea Salonga
A conference room, and Richard was sitting in front of me, and he said, We would like to cast you as Epenine and Les-Miz. Would you be interested? And I'm like, Absolutely. And I was by this point obsessed with Les Miz, the three-hour and fifteen-minute version of it.
Lea Salonga
was in my head.
Lea Salonga
Locked in my head. Every single character, every single line.
Presenter
So you were the first Asian actress to play Epony.
Lea Salonga
Yeah.
Presenter
And your performance in that role became the stuff of Broadway legend. And you played a couple of roles in Lamers in the end, just as well that you did have all things.
Lea Salonga
I'm done.
Lea Salonga
Yeah, the whole I played the two dead girls. And there was a recent cast change in Leimiz on the West End. And the young woman who's playing it now Old Friends, which is the show that I'm currently in, which is a brand new Sondheim review.
Lea Salonga
is playing at the Gielgud right beside the Sondheim, which is where Lee Miz is. And our rehearsals were happening in the same venue. So she came up to me and introduced herself, saying that she was going to be playing Epenine and that she just wanted to meet me.
Lea Salonga
And so I this beautiful young woman of color.
Lea Salonga
Is getting to play this role, and so many young women of color have gotten to.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Lea Salonga
Mm-hmm.
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
To play this
Presenter
So, following your footsteps. What's that like for you? A Filipino performer that I know described you as the person who opened the door for all of us.
Lea Salonga
Following your footsteps, it's a good question.
Lea Salonga
In the moment, I don't think about it. In the moment when Les Miz was happening, my only concern was nailing that song every single day. Sing the song well, and that'll be enough. And so many years on, now
Lea Salonga
So many young women of color get to sing that song. And I'm thankful to Cameron's office. I'm thankful to Richard J. I'm thankful, obviously, to Cameron for
Lea Salonga
Daring
Lea Salonga
To say
Lea Salonga
This is storytelling. Race is not involved. We're going to cast this person in this role. We think she'd be perfect.
Lea Salonga
And
Lea Salonga
That's the end of it.
Lea Salonga
This was way before representation was a byword, when I w was cast in
Lea Salonga
That role.
Lea Salonga
I didn't envision how important it would end up.
Lea Salonga
being.
Lea Salonga
It's time for your next display. What are we going to hear? I am a huge fan of BTS. BTS is a seven member Korean pop group. They have sold out Wembley Stadium.
Lea Salonga
And this track is one of my favorites. It's called Singularity, and it is sung by my favorite member of BTS, who goes by the name V.
Lea Salonga
And even if you don't understand a lick of the lyric?
Lea Salonga
I think you'll appreciate.
Lea Salonga
Just the music. It's really good music.
Speaker 4
Won't get cash in a soldier.
Speaker 4
Namatuk chamesok
Speaker 4
Nasaram got a consuri.
Speaker 4
Morgichakura.
Presenter
BTS and Singularity. Leia, earlier this year you co-produced and starred in the Broadway musical Here Lies Love about the life of Imelda Marcos. Now it was the first all-Filipino cast on Broadway. You actually sang for the Marcoses when you were a child and 40 years later you're in a musical about them playing Aurora Aquino, the mother of politician Ninoy Aquino who was assassinated in 1983. I think you've described it as like slamming into history. Tell me about that.
Presenter
For me
Lea Salonga
It was like
Lea Salonga
We're doing this in New York. I don't think we're necessarily offending anybody per se.
Lea Salonga
And folks will come away from the show the way they'll come away from any show. Whatever their feelings are, we are going to offer the truth, all of which has been extensively researched.
Lea Salonga
and looked at
Lea Salonga
All of the stuff that we are presenting can be proved.
Lea Salonga
Which was important to all of us. As for me slamming into my own history, I remember being 12.
Lea Salonga
And seeing
Lea Salonga
photographs everywhere of Ninoy Aquino's bloodied face as he was on the funeral procession. His mother, Aurora, the role I got to play,
Lea Salonga
was the one who decided.
Lea Salonga
That
Lea Salonga
He would not be prepared for burial.
Lea Salonga
We will show our people what he looked like. We will show what was done to him. It included keeping him in the clothes that he wore on the flight. So bloodied the face uncovered by makeup, which is customary for a funeral or awake. Nope. Barefaced, bloodied, bruised. And I think the quote is, we will show what they did to him. And I was like, that's intense. And for a mother to be so protective over
Lea Salonga
How her child was going to be seen and perceived.
Lea Salonga
Yeah, to this day he is still seen as a hero. The quote was The Filipino is worth dying for.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
And he proved it.
Presenter
It must have been such a special show to be part of. What was Opening Night like? It was a lecture.
Lea Salonga
It was an entire group of people.
Lea Salonga
In the cast, and many of us in the production team who are of Filipino descent, all of us were really leaning into our Filipinon-ness so much more, I think, than we normally do on a day-to-day basis. I mean, I wear the Philippines on my face. It's wherever I go, that's who I am.
Lea Salonga
I felt
Lea Salonga
This is the one show where I get to play who I am. I am leaning into this. So even when it means that.
Speaker 1
Uh
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
It's not just the face, it's the outfit, it's the language, it's really representing the best of yourself and your country.
Lea Salonga
On the biggest stage in the world.
Lea Salonga
But too, you come face to face with some of our more painful history.
Lea Salonga
In a safe environment where you can be free to feel all of your feelings, whatever that might mean for that individual person.
Presenter
I think we better have some more music there.
Presenter
What's your next selection?
Lea Salonga
Oh, this is a good one, and one that always makes me cry. This is Baby Mine.
Lea Salonga
From Dumbo, originally sung by Betty Noyce, and
Lea Salonga
It's like, I have had to sing this in concert and I always have to give myself extra time to prepare in order to get used to it because it's this gorgeous song from a mother to her child and it's just so emotional and hits right at the center of the heart. It's one of the most gorgeous pieces of music ever produced for a Disney film.
Speaker 4
Baby, mine, don't you cry.
Speaker 4
Maybe one flyer.
Speaker 4
Press your hand close to my heart, never to
Speaker 4
But baby amaze
Presenter
Uh
Speaker 4
Uh
Presenter
Little one.
Presenter
Baby Mine, Betty Noise, from the soundtrack to Dumbo.
Presenter
So many firsts for you, Leah. And one very pleasing one that I have to ask you about is your role as a Disney legend. In nineteen ninety two you became a Disney princess for the first time, providing the singing voice for Princess Jasmine from Aladdin, and then in nineteen ninety eight you did it again.
Speaker 1
And then
Presenter
As the singing voice of Mulan, which you've done twice. Now you are the only person to be a double Disney princess. Does this come with tags? Do you get the free rides on roller coasters and stuff like that?
Lea Salonga
Yeah, yeah.
Lea Salonga
I get to go to the park for free. I get to go to, with the exception of the parks in Japan.
Lea Salonga
I can go to any Disneyland. Do you have to like sing to get in or you get a little pass? I've already done my singing. I can just get a pass now. So m my kid does not know what it's like to be in a long line at Disney.
Lea Salonga
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
Uh
Presenter
It's gotta be some benefits to being a double princess I mean come on
Lea Salonga
I mean, you know, there there's gotta be a perk and there it is.
Presenter
A lifetime perk. We're about to cast you away to a solitary life on the desert islands.
Lea Salonga
Uh
Presenter
Do you enjoy your time alone? I actually do.
Lea Salonga
Yeah.
Lea Salonga
I can entertain myself. I'm pretty good at a solitary existence, if need be.
Presenter
Skills though.
Lea Salonga
Not good. Definitely nowhere near being able to spear a fish.
Lea Salonga
Maybe if I spent enough time on the island, sure. And what sort of island are you imagining? Hopefully somewhere where the weather is not so unpredictable.
Lea Salonga
I come from a country where there are so many typhoons in a year that you have to alphabetize them. So I'd I'd like to not be in a place like that as much as I love the Philippines.
Presenter
Lay out one more track before we send you off as a castaway. Your eighth choice today wasn't going to be my eighth choice.
Lea Salonga
Choice is Snooze by Augusty, who is another member of BTS, but this is his alter ego. Hi he normally goes by sugar.
Lea Salonga
So, this is Augustee, which features Ryuchi, Sakamoto, and a vocalist named Wu Sung. And.
Lea Salonga
He wrote it, I believe, as something that he wants to say to other young people who are following in his footsteps as an artist who is now more established and older, talking to younger artists who are saying, This is hard. What do I do? And he then says, Yeah, this can get difficult, but it will be okay. And there is a line in the song where over and over again he repeats, Everything will be okay.
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Hange gage
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Oh, my God, game
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Tagen channel
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Taken Chenaji, taken to nature.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
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Taken channel
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Yeah.
Speaker 4
Tagan Chanago, Tagentagical, Tagentagical, Tagan Chanago, Tagan Chanago.
Presenter
August D and Snooze, featuring Ryuichi Sakamoto and Woo Sung. Leia Solonga, I'm going to cast you away to your desert island now. I'll give you the books, the Bible, the complete works of Shakespeare, and another book of your choice. What would you like? A Complete Far Side by Gary Larson.
Lea Salonga
Love.
Lea Salonga
So this is kind of a problem.
Lea Salonga
It's just how he looks at life. It's silly and ludicrous and absolutely perfect, and you need to have a laugh.
Presenter
You can also have a luxury item. What will that be?
Lea Salonga
It's a toss-up between
Lea Salonga
A mocha coffee percolator.
Lea Salonga
which I use every day to make my coffee at home.
Lea Salonga
or a typewriter because I like journaling and I like and in high school and for part of college I used a typewriter. There's something about hearing
Lea Salonga
the keys as they hit the carriage as you're, you know, getting your thoughts out.
Lea Salonga
You're writing a term paper. You can only have one, which is it going to be?
Lea Salonga
I'll have the typewriter, I think.
Presenter
And what disk would you save from the waves, above all others? Uh
Presenter
I'd save snooze. By Augustine Yeah. If only For the line.
Lea Salonga
Yeah.
Presenter
Everything will be okay.
Presenter
Leia Salunga, thank you very much for letting us hear your desert island discs. Thank you for having me.
Presenter
Hello, I hope that Leia is happy on her island with her typewriter for company. We've cast away so many singers over the years, including Leah's heroine, Dame Julie Andrews. You can hear Julie's programme if you search through our Desert Island Discs programme archive or on BBC Sounds. And you'll also find other luminaries from the world of musicals, like Stephen Sondheim, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Cameron McIntosh, Sonia Friedman and Lynn Manuel Miranda.
Presenter
The studio manager for today's programme was Jackie Marjoram, the assistant producer was Tim Bano, and the producer was Sarah Taylor. The series editor is John Gowdy. Join me next time when I'm talking to the broadcaster Peter White, who's been presenting Radio Four's in Touch since nineteen seventy four, almost half a century.
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Presenter asks
How would you describe your relationship with your father?
Interesting. I mean, I've always seen him as incredibly intelligent. He was a polyglot. He learned Russian in Russian club in university just because he was one of those people. He spoke five languages. I barely can manage with two. Graduated one of the top in his class in university, but as my mom would say, did not have the best business sense. She had her street smarts. He was very book smart. According to members of his family, oh, he was such a star when he walked into the room, as in he walked into a room and all the very charismatic which got him in trouble with women. ... he and your mother never married? No, they never did. There's a part of me that's glad about that.
Presenter asks
Why did you resist auditioning for Miss Saigon?
Well, when you have parents that tell you this whole showbiz thing, it's fickle, they were being responsible parents and and telling me you need to go to university, you need to make sure you have a degree, you need to make sure that you'll be able to take care of yourself as an adult. Exactly. So and as a 17-year-old, I've seen artists be popular one minute and then disappear the next. So those are things that shape your plans.
Presenter asks
How did it feel to be at the center of the Actors Equity controversy?
We'll pick ... And they ... show in December of nineteen ninety. So not long before I wu was gonna leave the show here, he said, So this is what's happening. We're gonna try to bring you over to Broadway. And we're doing everything that we can to make this happen. But be aware? That we may not make it happen. So he was just very matter of fact about it. Called me and my mom into his office. And I said, you know what? For everything that you've done for me thus far, I really can't ask for anything more. I will make plans to maybe start drama school here in London if the Broadway thing doesn't work out. You know, don't worry. We're just so grateful for everything. And, you know, what happens? I'm in the Philippines. It's around mid-January. I hear a knock on my bedroom door. My father opens it. All he says to me is You're going to New York. So much for my plan.
Presenter asks
Tell me about Here Lies Love and slamming into history.
It was like ... We're doing this in New York. I don't think we're necessarily offending anybody per se. And folks will come away from the show the way they'll come away from any show. Whatever their feelings are, we are going to offer the truth, all of which has been extensively researched. ... As for me slamming into my own history, I remember being 12. And seeing photographs everywhere of Ninoy Aquino's bloodied face as he was on the funeral procession. His mother, Aurora, the role I got to play, was the one who decided. That He would not be prepared for burial. We will show our people what he looked like. We will show what was done to him. ... And I was like, that's intense. And for a mother to be so protective over how her child was going to be seen and perceived. ... It was an entire group of people. In the cast, and many of us in the production team who are of Filipino descent, all of us were really leaning into our Filipinon-ness so much more, I think, than we normally do on a day-to-day basis. I mean, I wear the Philippines on my face. It's wherever I go, that's who I am. I felt This is the one show where I get to play who I am. I am leaning into this. ... It's not just the face, it's the outfit, it's the language, it's really representing the best of yourself and your country on the biggest stage in the world. But too, you come face to face with some of our more painful history in a safe environment where you can be free to feel all of your feelings.
“Just whenever Julie opens her mouth, it's like finely spun threads of gold”
“It made me stop. And watch, and I remember not being able to move. Because it was lightning in a bottle.”
“Oh, they're not going to see you because you're Asian. ... It was quite a quite an awakening this realization that even though you have a Tony Award in your hand or all these other awards on your mantle, Doesn't matter.”
“We will show our people what he looked like. We will show what was done to him. ... I think the quote is, we will show what they did to him. And I was like, that's intense.”
“This is the one show where I get to play who I am. I am leaning into this.”