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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
Actor who left teaching art in Australia to train at the Old Vic and made his professional debut with the Young Vic.
Eight records
She Stoops to Conquer
Night of the Burning Pistol
Abelard and Eloise
Don Quixote
The keepsakes
No book or luxury recorded for this episode.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Was there an artistic background in your family?
No, not really. My father used to encourage me to draw, 'cause he used to like drawing. Mother was [loved] poetry and things. Yes. They both … were wonderfully encouraging to me altogether.
Presenter asks
How did you get an audition with the Old Vic when there was so little opportunity in Adelaide?
No, there wasn't. In fact the first proper theatre that I saw was Olivier … doing Richard the Third and I decided then that I would be an actor. But I'd done a lot of amateur work and radio work … and saved up some money to come over here.
Presenter asks
You could have stayed on at the Old Vic and eventually had a go at the big parts like Hamlet and Macbeth. Why didn't you?
By then I'd done Yerma in London for eighteen months. And it was either that or Dima in New York … I think you can get awfully set and in a rut with Shakespeare if you're not very careful. And there's something more stimulating about working in the commercial theatre.
The recording
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Presenter
This download is the only extract the BBC has of this edition of Desert Island Discs. The presenter was Roy Plumley.
Keith Michell
What part of Australia are you from? I was born in the south, south in Adelaide.
Presenter
Within the city itself?
Keith Michell
Yes, I was born in the city, but then my parents moved to the country and I I grew up there, which people say the outpack, but it's not really. You can't call it the outpack. I've been there since.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
Was there an artistic background in your family?
Keith Michell
No, not really. My father used to encourage me to draw,'cause he used to like drawing.
Keith Michell
Mother was um love poetry and things. Yes. They both en they were both w wonderfully encouraging to me all.
Keith Michell
You went to art school.
Keith Michell
Mm-hmm.
Keith Michell
And then to the university. What did you read there? Uh I well I went to the um Art School of Arts I I started to be a teacher, art teacher and uh I did educational psychology and history and things at the university. You were an art teacher for a while?
Keith Michell
Yes, I yes, I was. I taught for eighteen months and then had an audition with the old Vic.
Keith Michell
Uh
Presenter
How did that happen? There can't have been much opportunity in Adelaide Fourth Theatre going.
Keith Michell
Uh no, there wasn't. Not no. I in fact the first proper theatre that I saw was was Olivier, this is quite something, doing Richard the Third and I decided then that I would be an actor. But I'd done a lot of amateur work and radio work. Um Stephan Dyson was directing at the ABC then and um
Keith Michell
We did things like she stoops to conquer and
Keith Michell
This was while you were still teaching? Yes, while I was still teaching. I used to do it at night.
Presenter
Yeah.
Keith Michell
Yeah. And also saved up some money to come over here.
Keith Michell
It costs quite a bit.
Keith Michell
Sorry. Uh
Presenter
YouTube
Keith Michell
This audition.
Presenter
with the the Olivia company.
Keith Michell
Yes. This was to join the company? No, it was to to uh come here and study with the um Ulvik School, which then was run by three wonderful men, uh Blenby and Shaw.
Keith Michell
George Devine.
Keith Michell
And Michel Saint-Denis. Yes. And it was quite an experience. And you won the scholarship?
Keith Michell
I got admission, yes. There was no scholarship. No scholarship? No, my family hopped out. Yes.
Presenter
Had you any friends in London?
Keith Michell
No, not really, but um
Keith Michell
I soon made some.
Presenter
Had you enough to live on comfortably?
Keith Michell
I li I think I I thi I think I must have lived on about a pound a week or thirty bar or something, which is a lot more than than in those days. Did you d have to do hard jobs to to keep yourself? I painted a few portraits of people, uh one of a student.
Presenter
Post
Keith Michell
A couple of different people and the term
Keith Michell
Did you do any theatre jobs while you were a student? No, I wasn't allowed to because I was told I still had an Australian accent.
Presenter
No.
Keith Michell
Well, you completed your two years at the Olvic Theatre School. What was your first completely a professional engagement? That was with the Young Vic.
Keith Michell
which was a development of the school. I played Bassanio and then I did a character performance, a singing character performance.
Keith Michell
of Mary Thought in the Night of the Burning Pistol, which I hated doing really,'cause it was all padded and everything, you know.
Keith Michell
But they liked me doing the character work. And Wendy Toy came and saw it and um she offered me a Charles II and it's her to bed.
Presenter
This was reactally a
Keith Michell
Um
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
Yeah.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
The Uh
Presenter
The musical version.
Keith Michell
Yes, that we open to the new.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
Uh
Presenter
This was a starting role. Yes, it was a wonderful start. I should think so.
Presenter
You started your career very auspiciously with a starring part in the West End. What happened there?
Keith Michell
Uh
Presenter
Yeah.
Keith Michell
Then I went back to Australia with Stratford, the Shakespeare Company. What parts did you play? I played Orlando and Hotspur. Well, this is wonderful. Yes, it was rather yes, it was wonderful to be playing in that theatre that I'd seen.
Keith Michell
Olivier do his Richard the Third. Yes, such a short time.
Presenter
Time before.
Keith Michell
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Keith Michell
Yes.
Presenter
And you did the next season after.
Keith Michell
Then I did yes, I did two seasons at Jefford. I did um Petruccio the first season uh with Barbara Jefford and then the following season uh with the Oliviers.
Presenter
Yeah.
Keith Michell
Yes, this must have been a tremendous season. Yes, it was. Very exciting.
Presenter
About this time you were offered a very profitable Hollywood contract.
Keith Michell
Oh, yes.
Keith Michell
Yeah, yeah.
Keith Michell
Yes, I did. Well, I wanted to do some more Shakespeare.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
You went to the old Vic, where you really made something of a sensation. You you immediately became a a sort of Shakespearean matinee idol.
Keith Michell
Yes, and I've always rather blamed the first night audiences, London First Night Audiences, for that, because all the response was coming from upstairs.
Presenter
Yeah.
Keith Michell
Automatically played up there on that particular performance. It was um.
Keith Michell
Much ado about nothing.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
What were the best parts you played at the Olvic?
Keith Michell
Well, I played Benedict and uh Anthony
Keith Michell
An ant may be about her for the first time.
Keith Michell
Proteus and the two gentlemen.
Keith Michell
And I rather enjoyed doing Aeron and Titus and Ronicus.
Presenter
Now you could have stayed on at the Olvic and eventually had a go at the big parts, Hamlet and Macbeth and so on. Why didn't you?
Keith Michell
By then I'd um done Yerma La Deuce uh in London for eighteen months. And it was either that or or do Ima in New York.
Keith Michell
which I decided to do. Because I think um also I'd by then done uh quite enough Shakespeare. I think you can get awfully set and and in a rut with Shakespeare if you're not very careful. And there's something more stimulating about working in the commercial theatre.
Keith Michell
You get a a bigger variety of styles, I think, in a funny sort of way.
Keith Michell
The material may not always be as good.
Keith Michell
But uh th that in itself is an exercise.
Presenter
Well now some more highlights in your career. You were in the opening production at the Festival Theatre at Chichester.
Keith Michell
Yes, that was a very exciting time. Rather pioneering because it was was the opening of a theatre. Yeah. And Olivier was
Keith Michell
Directing the
Keith Michell
Three plays. I played the lead in the chances, which is a part that David Garrick played two centuries ago.
Keith Michell
And then what? You went to Australia again? Uh yes, I went to America, I did the rehearsal there, and then I went to Australia uh with a tour with Googie Withers and my wife, Jeanette Stark.
Keith Michell
We did um scenes from Shakespeare. And there was a another very successful musical we've left out.
Keith Michell
Uh which one? Oh yes, Robert and Elizabeth. Yes. He was forgotten.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
No, no, I hadn't forgotten.
Presenter
NAACA
Presenter
And there was a play at the Gaddick Theatre in in in which you played Henry the Eighth.
Keith Michell
Henry
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
For the first time, yes. This was the Anita Luce play. Yes, the fast with Dennis Jones.
Presenter
Yes.
Keith Michell
Hmm.
Keith Michell
Yes, it was because of that production, I think, that I got the Henry VIII.
Keith Michell
Um later on.
Presenter
On television.
Keith Michell
Yeah. Challenging part
Keith Michell
Saint Henry at all All edge is north BIOP Uh
Keith Michell
Yes, yes, it was an exorus dream really.
Keith Michell
Play that range of age.
Presenter
You worked in this country to enjoy that particular success.
Keith Michell
But no I was no, I was appearing in um this festival of Don Quixote's that they were having in New York.
Keith Michell
playing it for three months there.
Presenter
Mana
Keith Michell
Various people had played it all over the world.
Keith Michell
A man from Japan I think is doing it at the moment. Yes. In English.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
A new play to d
Presenter
Uh in London before, of course.
Keith Michell
I did.
Presenter
Yes.
Presenter
Well now currently you're in um Abelard and Eloise.
Presenter
A play that's had a lot of rather sensational publicity.
Keith Michell
It's not.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
Not uh at all necessary, Ray. Whose idea was it to play the love scene in the new?
Keith Michell
I think it was some
Keith Michell
Everyone's idea. It just seemed to be right. In this day and age you don't have it.
Keith Michell
People in bed without
Keith Michell
With, you know, tights on.
Presenter
Yes. But um this is a serious play. Isn't this public bringing the wrong kind of public in to
Keith Michell
Yeah, so
Keith Michell
No, the nice thing about that is, you see, that that that I think is that uh we are getting people who are coming just to see this scene.
Keith Michell
But
Keith Michell
They are being converted to the to the live theatre. I don't think otherwise they would be there at all.
Presenter
Oh well this is good missionary work if it is working that way.
Keith Michell
Yes, it is.
Presenter
Because, you know, people who see the play don't mention the scene at all.
Keith Michell
Uh
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
We haven't talked much about your painting. Painting was your first love. I suppose virtually you you've never stopped.
Keith Michell
No, I've always um done both. Ever since a child I was or either I was practising on the
Keith Michell
in the back yard dancing and singing and acting, or I was sitting down drawing, sketching. How many one man shows have you had in London last? I've had three here in London, all with the Whibley Gallery. Yes. Um in fact they started me off painting again.
Keith Michell
It was while I was doing EMA and found I had my days free and I they they were then uh a little gallery and they were framing as well and they um saw my paintings and they said, If you ever want to have an exhibition then let us know and we'll arrange a one-man show for you.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
Yeah.
Presenter
Yeah.
Keith Michell
And I was delighted at the idea and and Jenny and I got a boat, a banana boat, to Jamaica, and uh I painted for four months and came back with these pictures literally under my arm.
Keith Michell
And um I had this first one men show made.
Keith Michell
The these are uh entirely on the Don Quixote theme.
Keith Michell
When I started to play it.
Keith Michell
I became interested in the novel and also in the idea of painting the character. It was st what started off as a self-portrait developed into the first series I've done. There's about twenty of them, all quite large.
Keith Michell
uh based on the show and on the Cervantes novel.
Presenter
Uh
Keith Michell
There, um
Keith Michell
They're mostly in silver and white, and I'm using plastic paint now.
Keith Michell
No acrylic paint.
Keith Michell
Which is, um, a breakaway for me.
Presenter asks
This play 'Abelard and Eloise' has had a lot of sensational publicity. Isn't that bringing the wrong kind of public?
No, the nice thing about that is … we are getting people who are coming just to see this scene. But they are being converted to the live theatre. I don't think otherwise they would be there at all.
Presenter asks
Painting was your first love. How many one-man shows have you had in London?
I've had three here in London, all with the Whibley Gallery. … in fact they started me off painting again. It was while I was doing [a show] and found I had my days free … they said, 'If you ever want to have an exhibition then let us know' … Jenny and I got a boat to Jamaica, and I painted for four months and came back with these pictures literally under my arm.
“The first proper theatre that I saw was was Olivier … doing Richard the Third and I decided then that I would be an actor.”
“I think you can get awfully set and and in a rut with Shakespeare if you're not very careful. And there's something more stimulating about working in the commercial theatre.”
“They are being converted to the to the live theatre. I don't think otherwise they would be there at all.”
“It was what started off as a self-portrait developed into the first series I've done. There's about twenty of them, all quite large, based on the show and on the Cervantes novel.”