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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
An Army captain who, with Sergeant Ch. Blythe, rowed across the Atlantic in a twenty-foot boat.
Eight records
The Nuns’ Chorus (from Casanova)
Orchestra and Chorus of the Grosses Schauspielhaus, Berlin
Also one of my mother's favourite records ... I sort of like listening to it for this particular reason.
Sinfonia Antarctica (opening passage)Favourite
London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult; Sir John Gielgud
It's been a guidepost to me really. It played a large part in ... my taking the chance to row across the Atlantic.
Overture to The Sound of Music
The last film I went to with my wife prior to going on a trip ... during the trip about two o'clock in the morning when I was rowing, I had ... the overture from The Sound of Music.
Closing passage of the Overture to Tannhäuser
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Herbert von Karajan
This in fact was my wife's record ... when we were depressed we used to listen particularly to this ... it's very unsubtle and it means a lot to me.
The Road and the Miles to Dundee
This is the song which boosted us when we were getting a bit depressed on the sea.
Letter Home (from Summer Song)
It reminds me of many times in my life when I've done unexpected things on the spur of the moment, and they've turned out sometimes disastrously and sometimes very memorable indeed.
Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra, Antal Doráti
Towards the end of the tour ... we used to get very depressed sometimes ... all the corporals used to get together in an evening ... we used to play this record and we all used to conduct.
I've almost always come back to lean on this and recited to myself.
The keepsakes
No book or luxury recorded for this episode.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Why did you choose The Nuns’ Chorus?
The nuns chorus is also um one of my mother's favourite records. We were we were very close, my mother and I. And I sort of like listening to it for this particular reason.
Presenter asks
Captain Ridgway, the Atlantic had been rowed before, hadn't it? How did you come to decide to do it?
Well it was not a thing that um I'd always wanted to do at all. I'd never even thought of it until I heard it on the wireless … I saw a chance to do something … which was not going to cost a great deal … I think 500 pounds covered the whole thing. So David Johnston went off and started an attempt … and I teamed up with Sergeant Blythe and decided to make an independent attempt.
The recording
Timestamps play the recording from that turn
Speaker 1
Hello, I'm Kirsty Young, and you are listening to Desert Island Discs.
Speaker 1
This edition of Desert Island Discs was archived without the music.
Speaker 1
So although the Castaways choices are introduced, they're not part of this recording.
Speaker 1
Full details can be found on the Castaways page on the Desert Island Disc's website.
Speaker 1
The programme was originally broadcast in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 1
And the presenter was Roy Plumley.
Presenter
How'd you do, ladies and gentlemen?
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One of the great achievements of this decade was the crossing of the Atlantic by two Army men in a twenty foot rowing boat.
Presenter
They're on our desert island this week, Captain John Ridgway and Sergeant Ch. Blythe of the Parachute Regiment.
Presenter
Now, gentlemen, you have four records each, and we spend a coin as to which of you pick first, right?
Presenter
Trebleise, w will you call?
Speaker 2
Heads.
Presenter
Exiters
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Now, Sergeant Blythe, you are a Scot. Where were you born?
Speaker 2
I was born in Hoyke, which is in the borders of Scotland in Roxburghshire.
Presenter
Yes. How long have you been in the army?
Speaker 2
Eight years.
Presenter
Is music important to you?
Speaker 2
I enjoy music, but I think I could do without it.
Speaker 2
Came to it.
Presenter
Mm.
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What's the first record you chose?
Speaker 2
The Nuns Chorus.
Presenter
Why do you choose that?
Speaker 2
The nuns chorus is also um one of my mother's favourite records. We were we were very close, my mother and I.
Speaker 2
And I sort of like listening to it for this particular reason.
Presenter
The Nuns Chorus from Casanova by the Orchestra and Chorus of the Grossenschauspielhausen, Berlin.
Presenter
Captain Ridgeway, where were you born?
Presenter
I was born in Essex.
Captain John Ridgway
Yeah.
Presenter
How much does music
Captain John Ridgway
Sigma deal.
Captain John Ridgway
Um
Captain John Ridgway
I think really that uh in times of uh stress when I need uh more courage.
Captain John Ridgway
I would like to hear exhilarating music very loud.
Captain John Ridgway
Unsettle music. What's the first one you've chosen?
Captain John Ridgway
The first one I've chosen, in fact, is Antarctica.
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Von William. Yes.
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The prelude is read by Sir John Geelgood in that particular
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Peace.
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Um from Prometheus Unbound.
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By Shilly.
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Uh means a great deal to me. I heard it about five years ago.
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Just before I got married, in fact.
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And um I've written it down ever since on various diaries I've kept and I think that it's been a guidepost to me really. It played a large part in
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in my taking the chance to row across the Atlantic.
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And the actual music, the the gap between the very loud parts is about the length of a
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Very big wave.
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And uh
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Middle of an Atlantic storm.
Presenter
The opening passage of the Vaughan Williams Sinfonia Antarctica
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The London Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Sir Adrian Belt and the voice of Sir John Gilgood.
Presenter
Now, Captain Ridgeway, the Atlantic had been rowed before, hadn't it?
Captain John Ridgway
But Yeah.
Captain John Ridgway
Yes, this is true, I believe in eighteen ninety-six two Norwegian Americans.
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Um attempted to row from
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I think it was, uh, New York to Land's End.
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And they got across in fifty-five days.
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And uh
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This is such a long time ago, I think it was seventy years ago now, mm that
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The details of this are missed in time and exactly w what they did. I know they were on three ships, so I've been told.
Captain John Ridgway
But it there doesn't seem to be any real record of how they did it.
Captain John Ridgway
Attempt
Captain John Ridgway
Well it was not a a thing that um I'd always wanted to do at all. I'd
Presenter
Well it was not a
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Never even thought of it until
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Uh
Captain John Ridgway
I heard it on the wireless. You heard um David Johnston talking about it. That's right, on um Jack Demanios today.
Presenter
You bugger.
Captain John Ridgway
Mm-hmm.
Captain John Ridgway
Here I saw a chance to do something.
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of the this nature, which I'd always wanted to do all my life, something like go to the Himalayas or the Pearls or something, but today young people just haven't got the money to finance expeditions like this.
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And here was an opportunity.
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which was not going to cost a great deal.
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There.
Presenter
Uh
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And I think 500 pounds.
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Covered the whole thing.
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So David Johnston went off and started an attempt with John Hoare in Puffin.
Presenter
And Iel teamed up with Sergeant Blythe and decided to make an independent attempt.
Captain John Ridgway
Decide for me.
Captain John Ridgway
Yeah.
Presenter
Now, Johnson and Hoare had their boats specially built, I believe, did you, Captain Ridgway?
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M
Captain John Ridgway
So
Presenter
Yeah.
Captain John Ridgway
Um I didn't finally decide to do it until uh sometime in February when I did a sort of military appreciation. Worked out I only had fifty-five days to get to America with a boat, so there was no time then to start getting boats designed or built.
Speaker 1
Uh
Captain John Ridgway
And uh
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A friend in Scotland sent me Dana.
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Um thing for lobster pods and said there was a very good boat and I took that boat as a stockboat.
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Uh
Presenter
Why did you resign?
Captain John Ridgway
Yeah. Two stock
Presenter
From Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
Captain John Ridgway
Well, again, with only the fifty five days I tried to make the thing as simple as possible. And uh I knew that the other boat, Puffin, was going to start from Cape Cod, so I decided to go from the same place. How long did you think the voyage was going to take, Sergeant Blythe?
Presenter
Uh
Speaker 2
Between uh sixty to eighty days, we thought it would
Speaker 2
Take about that, but in fact we took provisions for a hundred days.
Presenter
How long in fact did it take?
Speaker 2
91 days.
Presenter
Well, now we've discussed all the preparations for the voyage, let's have another record, and it's your turn again, Sergeant Blythe.
Speaker 2
Well this time I have chosen the sound of music.
Speaker 2
The reason for this is
Speaker 2
This in fact was the
Speaker 2
The film, the last film I went to with my wife, or indeed the last place I went to with my wife, prior to going on a trip.
Speaker 2
I think the film was absolutely marvellous and also um
Speaker 2
During the trip about two o'clock in the morning when I was rowing,
Speaker 2
I had
Speaker 2
j their overture from a sound of music.
Speaker 2
So I think it's a good time to play it.
Presenter
The Overture to The Sound of Music from the Film Soundtrack. Now, Sergeant Bright, this was your department. Roughly, how much did you take in the way of stores? How much fresh water?
Speaker 2
We took a hundred and twenty gallons of fresh water.
Speaker 2
for for the actual trip.
Speaker 2
But we also took nine gallons of spare water, which we loaded up.
Speaker 2
After we put um 120 gallons in.
Presenter
Yeah. How much food?
Speaker 2
We took enough food, as I said, for um
Speaker 2
about eighty days plus emergency.
Presenter
Now all this must have made the boat very heavy to pull.
Speaker 2
Yes, I should think well over a ton, almost a ton and a half I should think.
Presenter
Good.
Presenter
Now you had no cabin on English Rose three, just a a canvas canopy. With all the buoyancy tanks and stores and so on, was there room to stretch out to sleep fairly comfortably?
Captain John Ridgway
Well, in fact, the boat was twenty foot long, and we had decking coming in from either end, about four feet from either end.
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Which was just uh buoyancy. So that took eight feet, leaving us twelve feet. Then we had two thoughts.
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which would cover most of the twelve feet left.
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And we worked out that we lived in bad weather in a space.
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of about five feet by five feet. And consequently we could never really stretch out. We always had our knees bent up. Yes. And we had only this piece of wet canvas over our head.
Captain John Ridgway
How did you arrange the rowing? Did you both row by day and both sleep by night?
Captain John Ridgway
Well, um again.
Captain John Ridgway
We worked out a plan. Obviously we couldn't set off at uh
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A very high level.
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We got as fat as we could before we started, and thought we'd find down for the first month or so.
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and then try and keep a high peak.
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We rode
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Initially, for the first three weeks
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Twelve hours, both rowing together except for five minute breaks each hour.
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And then we both slipped.
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For Atas
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And then we s did another twelve hours row. After three three weeks of this, we decided to really get stuck in and
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We rode both together for twelve hours, and then for the twelve hours of darkness.
Captain John Ridgway
We went through three two hour periods of sleep and three two hour periods of rowing alternately. So one man was rowing, one man was sleeping. Yeah, so if the weather made it possible, the boat was underway the whole time.
Captain John Ridgway
This is true, it never stopped from the twenty-seventh of July to the third of August, for example.
Presenter
Now you rowed west to east to take advantage of the prevailing winds. In fact, out of the ninety one days that the voyage took, roughly how many days did you have a westerly wind?
Speaker 2
I think we're westerly winds most of the time, except probably for about three weeks.
Speaker 2
We had
Speaker 2
almost a complete week of nothing but easterly winds, which became very depressing.
Presenter
Yes, you're blown back.
Speaker 2
and then the rest of the time there's a odd days of Easterlies.
Presenter
Now the boat is of a a cockle shell size. It must have been tossed about to a fantastic degree. Did either of you suffer from sea sickness?
Captain John Ridgway
Yes, I knew I was going to be seasick, therefore I decided that a good idea would be to start in the late part of the day, so that darkness would quickly come and no one would see me being sick, which would be a very bad start. And I was sick I think four times in the first twenty four hours.
Captain John Ridgway
And after that. And then I recovered. It it cleared up, although we did feel sick, both of us, sometimes underneath this wet piece of canvas in very bad weather.
Presenter
And then I recap
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Uh
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Uh
Captain John Ridgway
Yeah.
Presenter
Now you went through two hurricanes and quite a number of gales, and there was no question of being able to batten down hatches. All you had between you and the weather was this strip of canvas. Yes. And no way of keeping the water out. You had to pump or bale the whole time in in bad weather.
Speaker 2
Yes and
Captain John Ridgway
The canvas in fact only covered just a little bit of the boat, the rest was open, just a bit over our heads.
Captain John Ridgway
And there was no way of drying clothes.
Presenter
Yeah.
Speaker 2
We had um we used to have about one day per week when it was good.
Speaker 2
And sunny we could even get a sunbath, and we'd get most of our clothes dry. Had it not been for that one day then, we'd no way of getting our clothes dry, I'm afraid.
Presenter
Yes.
Presenter
Well the wet clothes must of course have led to chafing and skin sores and other unpleasantness.
Captain John Ridgway
Uh yes, this was perhaps the worst part of the whole thing, the terrible, um soreness, particularly on our backsides of the the salt water.
Captain John Ridgway
It got worse and worse until we were in continual pain any time we were weren't in pain when we were asleep.
Captain John Ridgway
That's terrible.
Presenter
Uh
Captain John Ridgway
The Another red.
Presenter
It's your turn, Captain Richway.
Captain John Ridgway
Yes, um for this one, in fact I've chosen the noisiest piece of Ternhauser.
Captain John Ridgway
This in fact was my wife's record. When when we got married we lived up in northwest Sutherland for a period. I was out of the army for about six months.
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Working on salmon netting and uh loading fish boxes and such like.
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And when we were depressed we used to listen particularly to this.
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Uh record
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And it's the kind of music, as I've said before.
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Which uh does inspire me. It's very unsubtle and uh it means a lot to me.
Presenter
The closing passage of the Overture to Taunnhuizer.
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The Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Carian.
Presenter
Now, Sergeant Blythe, in the hurricane the first hurricane, you had a lot of your food supplies spoiled, didn't you?
Speaker 2
Yes, we had the food packed in polystyrene boxes, and some of the lids got cracked.
Speaker 2
The water would seep in and gradually fill up the boxes.
Speaker 2
The food was then in turn packed in a
Speaker 2
and plastic.
Speaker 2
and waterproof bags, which weren't waterproof.
Speaker 2
and the water used to seep in there and destroy it. We had probably about two days of it, two full days of rations.
Speaker 2
Um destroyed of each week's Russians.
Presenter
This puts you on very short rations indeed.
Speaker 2
It put us on short rations, yes, we are on low-calorie rations then.
Presenter
to the extent that you both suffered from weakness.
Speaker 2
Yes, I think we're worn down after a while.
Presenter
You went through this gruelling ordeal together. On top of grim hardships there must have been countless petty irritations. Were there any quarrels?
Speaker 2
No, w we didn't, um, quarrel at all. We would discuss anything rather than quarrel. We had in fact had practice at not not quarrelling by the fact that when we were on canoeing, another sort of
Speaker 2
things which you done together. We tried particularly not to quarrel.
Presenter
Now you had your emergency transmitter which could have put out the International May Day Distress Call.
Presenter
Was there any moment when you felt like giving up?
Presenter
Uh
Captain John Ridgway
Um
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I don't think the
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We ever f really felt like giving up. We did discuss the possibility about three hundred miles off Ireland.
Captain John Ridgway
When
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We'd come a long way north, the weather was particularly cold, and we were going through a really fearful storm. Or we had been through it, it was beginning to slacken off a bit, and I felt that I had to at least offer some guide the chance of
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giving up because
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We were approaching Ireland, which is a very bad coast, and it was coming into September, and I was expecting equinoctial gales and so on.
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And I thought that this wasn't really worth dying for.
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And therefore
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My idea was that should he want to give up,
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We should hang about until we met a ship, or until we met the next ship, and then we should get aboard that, if he wanted to.
Captain John Ridgway
Not use the radio at all.
Presenter
Hmm.
Captain John Ridgway
He decided that.
Captain John Ridgway
Having come this far we weren't bloody well going to finish and uh so we went on.
Presenter
Yeah.
Captain John Ridgway
And uh finished laughing.
Presenter
Looking back apart from that time of despair, what was the worst thing about the voyage?
Presenter
Yeah.
Captain John Ridgway
Well
Captain John Ridgway
I think there are two ways of looking at this. There was
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The period of depression.
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Which ensued early on when the navigation went slightly wrong. The sextant was uh
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unscrewed and we found we were either in Vermont or up the Bay of Fundy. However, this was corrected, but at the time this was a very grave blow'cause we'd only just started.
Captain John Ridgway
And then I remember right out in the middle in really bad conditions sometimes.
Captain John Ridgway
I was wondering if we were going to wear out altogether. Each storm seemed to leave us weaker, and we'd recover when the sun came out, and then we'd get weaker. But each storm we'd be a little bit weaker.
Presenter
Yes.
Captain John Ridgway
Yeah.
Presenter
Also Arbite, it's your turn. Turn to choose a record again. What next?
Speaker 2
I think I've of The Road in the Miles to Dundee by Andy Stewart.
Presenter
Why did you choose that?
Speaker 2
Uh this record is one of my favourites.
Speaker 2
And he's always sort of played on Old Years' Night when sort of all Scotsmen celebrate.
Speaker 2
And also this is a the song which boosted us.
Speaker 2
When we were getting a bit depressed on the seaweed, I used to sing at the top of my voice in the middle of nowhere.
Presenter
Andy Stewart, The Road and the Miles to Dundee.
Presenter
Now you battled your way across.
Presenter
Three thousand miles of water. You landed in the Isle of Aran. This was rather unexpected, wasn't it? Your wives were waiting for you in the Scilly Isles. Yes, this is true.
Captain John Ridgway
We uh did in fact board a a Finnish ship two hundred and fifty miles off Ireland.
Captain John Ridgway
And I boarded it.
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in order to get a message sent to Lloyds, but in fact they didn't send the last part, which was to say that we were in fact going to Ireland, so everybody expected us to land at Land's End, which was considerably south.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Captain John Ridgway
And so there was a misunderstanding there. Consequently, when we did arrive.
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Cause all manner of panic.
Presenter
Nobody, of course, was expecting you. In fact, they did send the lifeboat out for you, thinking that you were in distress.
Captain John Ridgway
Yes, this this is true. We saw the um the lighthouse, which is on
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an island, separate island, and I tried to get through a gap between two islands and to get round in the lee of the lighthouse and get aboard the
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The Lighthouse Island.
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We were waved away from there.
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And we had to cross a piece of sea, I suppose about a mile.
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and there was one island in b in the middle, and then the main island of Aran. As we were going across there, the lighthouse keeper went up to the top of his tower and was peering through the murk in this
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Awfully gloomy day th th the gale was now force nine.
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and down through his telescope he saw us.
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And I've been wanting to go to the loo all day.
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And sir, I said to Sam that
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I'll have to go to the otherwise, you know, we're gonna have an awful disaster here. A very peculiar landing. He said, Well,
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If if you're going to, it'll have to be when you're in the lee of the Middle Island.
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And so when we got
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Behind this middle island I stood up to to get our bucket.
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And in the gloom the lighthouse keeper said, Oh, they're in trouble, he's going to bail out and uh he sent off the l the lifeboat, which they turned up.
Captain John Ridgway
Another an odd story that.
Presenter
They do listen to the radio a lot.
Presenter
In the boat, on the crossing?
Speaker 2
Initially we didn't listen to it at all. This is because we didn't have the batteries to spare.
Speaker 2
And we didn't want to take a chance of it getting wet.
Speaker 2
But as time went on we listened to it more and more and in fact the night it a wave hit it we were listening to the B B C overseas service and
Speaker 2
We did in fact hear that
Speaker 2
Uh we had been reported.
Speaker 2
and that we were safe and well, so it's a great morale booster because it we then knew that our wives knew that we were all right.
Captain John Ridgway
Just previous to this we'd had Desert Island Discs of course with General Cootts of the Salvation Army.
Presenter
Had you read?
Captain John Ridgway
Yes, I listened to the whole programme, in fact I can remember some of the records each as.
Presenter
Hmm.
Captain John Ridgway
It was in the dark about nine o'clock one night.
Captain John Ridgway
What did you talk about most of the time apart from day to day trivia?
Captain John Ridgway
Um
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It was really, I think.
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the past of both of us. And uh we got deeper and deeper, of course, as we got into deeper and deeper water. We did in fact talk incessantly tw uh for twelve hours of each day. We never ran out of conversations, it turned out.
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And we never really argued.
Captain John Ridgway
And I think this this was a tremendous help. Had we not talked, as soon as we found we weren't talking.
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Um
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The Roma become more prominent in our minds.
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And life would become a lot harder. It's your turn to choose another record. It's Vorjak's Letter Home from SummerSong.
Captain John Ridgway
It's really dialogue and uh
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It reminds me of many times in my life when I've
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done unexpected things on the spur of the moment, and they've turned out sometimes disastrously and sometimes very memorable indeed. And his attitude here in this letter um appeals to me.
Captain John Ridgway
I think it's a very nice record.
Presenter
Lawrence Naismith as Vojak in Sama Song.
Presenter
Now I don't have to ask the usual questions about how you two would manage on a desert island, because let's face it, English Rose 3 was a very small desert island really in the middle of the ocean.
Presenter
Now a apart from the normal hazards of the elements, you also ran into danger with whales, didn't you, Sergeant Clark?
Speaker 2
Yes, they come up alongside, have a look at us, swim round us a couple of times, and then disappear.
Speaker 2
It became frightening at first, but we used to get used to them.
Presenter
And with a boat that size, of course, sharks would be a danger as well.
Speaker 2
Well, I think we're more frightened of the whales because of the fact that they could overturn us than
Speaker 2
than the sharks.
Presenter
It is your turn again. What have you chosen?
Speaker 2
Most of them I've chosen uh Tchaikovsky's eighteen twelve.
Speaker 2
The reason for it
Speaker 2
Because the first time I went abroad for a long time
Speaker 2
or rather twelve months was in sixty one when we went to Bahrain.
Speaker 2
By this time I was in the corporal's mares.
Speaker 2
Unda
Speaker 2
Towards the end of the tour there
Speaker 2
We were in a tented camp and we used to get very depressed sometimes.
Speaker 2
And there
Speaker 2
All the corporals used to get together in an evening and after we had a few beers and everybody got under the influence, we used to play this record and
Speaker 2
We all used to conduct.
Presenter
That's a good one to conduct.
Presenter
Tchaikovsky's eighteen twelve overture, The Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra conducted by Antole Dorati.
Presenter
Whose turn is it now? The last record Oh, it's yours, Captain Ridgewood.
Captain John Ridgway
Yes, for this record I've I've chosen the twenty-third sub. I think almost every British child.
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He has it sometime during his childhood.
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Mike remembered at school very
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Very well indeed.
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It's such a simple
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Peace of
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Writing
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That
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It's very easy for me to understand and I I I found that in times of
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Prolonged stress I've almost always come back to lean on this, and recited to myself.
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or attempted to sing it somewhat tunelessly.
Presenter
The Tremann setting of the twenty third Psalm
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The Glasgow Orpheus Choir.
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Now if you could take
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Each of you, just one of the discs you've chosen, which would it be?
Presenter
Sergeant Blood.
Speaker 2
I think I would probably take the son of music.
Presenter
Mhm. Captain Ridgway? I think I'd probably take the Antarctica. And one luxury for each of you.
Presenter
Sergeant Blair.
Speaker 2
I think probably I'd take a shaving kit with me.
Presenter
Plenty of soap and spare blade.
Presenter
What about you, Captain Ritter?
Presenter
Uh
Captain John Ridgway
Uh I'd use his soap and blades all right. But I'd like to have um one of those very comfortable leather arm chairs that you see nowadays. Yes. So that I could sit down and work out how to get off the island. And one book each.
Captain John Ridgway
Well
Captain John Ridgway
I think I would really like an anthology of poems, English poems. Uh
Speaker 2
Uh
Captain John Ridgway
Yeah. Largely Shelley and Tennyson.
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Sergeant Blythe?
Speaker 2
I think probably um a very big dictionary. Every time I go to the dictionary I find it
Speaker 2
Instead of looking up one word, I end up looking up a dozen. I can't put it down any hint.
Presenter
Yeah.
Presenter
Right, well, thank you, Captain John Ridgway and Sergeant J. Blythe, for letting us hear your desert island discs. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Speaker 2
Thank you, H. Goodbye.
Presenter
Goodbye to what
Speaker 2
But
Presenter asks
How long did you think the voyage was going to take, Sergeant Blythe?
Between uh sixty to eighty days, we thought it would take about that, but in fact we took provisions for a hundred days.
Presenter asks
Did either of you suffer from seasickness?
Yes, I knew I was going to be seasick, therefore I decided that a good idea would be to start in the late part of the day, so that darkness would quickly come and no one would see me being sick … I was sick I think four times in the first twenty four hours. And after that … it cleared up, although we did feel sick, both of us, sometimes underneath this wet piece of canvas in very bad weather.
Presenter asks
Was there any moment when you felt like giving up?
I don't think we ever f really felt like giving up. We did discuss the possibility about three hundred miles off Ireland … I felt that I had to at least offer [him] the chance of giving up … I thought that this wasn't really worth dying for … He decided that … having come this far we weren't bloody well going to finish and uh so we went on.
Presenter asks
Looking back, apart from that time of despair, what was the worst thing about the voyage?
I think there are two ways of looking at this. There was the period of depression which ensued early on when the navigation went slightly wrong … And then I remember right out in the middle in really bad conditions sometimes. I was wondering if we were going to wear out altogether. Each storm seemed to leave us weaker, and we'd recover when the sun came out, and then we'd get weaker. But each storm we'd be a little bit weaker.