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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
A Scottish traditional musician renowned for playing the melodeon, who became a television and recording artist.
Eight records
The keepsakes
No book or luxury recorded for this episode.
In conversation
Presenter asks
Did anybody in the family have any musical talent?
None other than playing the melodeon.
Presenter asks
When did you start to take an interest in music?
Oh, when I was very young. I've heard it said I played before I went to school, but uh
Presenter asks
What was it your ambition to be when you were a youngster?
Well, I never had any ambitions to be anybody. I never really thought I would be an artist on television or recording or anything like that.
Presenter asks
What brought you out of the pit [the mines]?
The recording
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Jimmy Shand
This done.
Presenter
Download is the only
Jimmy Shand
Uh
Presenter
Only extract the BBC has of this edition of Desertin and Discs.
Jimmy Shand
The presenter was Roy Plumley.
Presenter
Where we want.
Jimmy Shand
Any streams on the Fife Coast.
Presenter
Now your father enjoyed listening to brass bands. Did anybody in the family have any musical talent?
Jimmy Shand
None other than playing the melodeon.
Presenter
And who was that?
Presenter
Your father? Yes, oh yes.
Presenter
When did you start to take an interest in music?
Jimmy Shand
Oh, when I was very young. I've heard it said I played before I went to school, but uh
Presenter
You played your father's melodious.
Jimmy Shand
I want you to
Presenter
Did he teach you, or did you teach yourself?
Jimmy Shand
No.
Jimmy Shand
I think that's an instrument, yeah.
Jimmy Shand
Take up naturally.
Presenter
It's a c kind of small accordion, isn't it?
Jimmy Shand
But
Presenter
What was it your ambition to be when you were a youngster?
Jimmy Shand
Well, I never had any ambitions to be anybody. I never really thought I would be an artist on television or recording or anything like that.
Presenter
What was your father?
Jimmy Shand
My father was a ploughman originally, but we moved into the mining district and he worked in the mines as well.
Presenter
What did you do when you left school?
Jimmy Shand
I went down the mainstore.
Presenter
How long did you stay there?
Jimmy Shand
About three and a half years.
Presenter
What brought you out of the pit?
Jimmy Shand
The general strike.
Presenter
You didn't get on again afterwards.
Jimmy Shand
No.
Presenter
Now these were black days. What did you do? Is it fairly easy to get out of work?
Jimmy Shand
No, it's very difficult to get to work.
Jimmy Shand
We were lucky to work maybe three months a year at that time.
Presenter
What jobs did you get?
Jimmy Shand
Well, labour and jobs. The first job I got was to work in a a water works and I had to travel sixteen miles each way, every day, to work for a shilling an hour.
Presenter
When did you get a job that gave you opportunities eventually?
Jimmy Shand
Well, I would see when I went to Dundee.
Presenter
And what do the
Jimmy Shand
I went to work in a music shop.
Presenter
How did that happen? That was a change from labouring.
Jimmy Shand
Well, the way it happened was that the
Jimmy Shand
I used to visit Dundee at weekends and naturally inclined I used to go and look into the music shop windows.
Jimmy Shand
Used to admire the accordions. That was about all I could do with them, was admire them. I couldn't buy them.
Jimmy Shand
and I happened to be standing there with a friend one day.
Jimmy Shand
And he says to me, It doesn't cost you money to try them. So when we went,
Jimmy Shand
and uh tried the accordion, and mister Forbes, the proprietor, he was kind of taken with the way we were playing, and he invited me any time I was in Dundee to come in and visit the shop.
Presenter
Yes.
Presenter
And eventually went to work for him.
Jimmy Shand
I did, yes.
Presenter
And when did you start to get jobs playing those magnificent shiny accordions?
Jimmy Shand
Well, I didn't do a lot of playing when I was before, but I was mainly a demonstrator.
Jimmy Shand
and a salesman, but we used to have recording concerts in which it didn't cost you a lot to get in, and we hoped that you would be interested in recordings and some day buy them.
Presenter
and you use to demonstrate.
Jimmy Shand
Yes, Mr. Ferbs did the talking.
Presenter
Were you also playing for dances in the evening?
Jimmy Shand
No, it was mainly demonstrations, but I had played many dances in the previous years, especially the straight dances.
Presenter
Strike dances
Jimmy Shand
Yes, the proceeds which went to the soup kitchens to feed the miners' dependents.
Presenter
Mm-hmm.
Presenter
And I believe it was this demonstrating you did that led to your recording contract.
Jimmy Shand
Yes, mister Forbes arranged for me to come down to London to make my first record end in nineteen thirty three.
Presenter
Yes. And you also did some broadcasting.
Jimmy Shand
That would be nineteen thirty four, yes.
Presenter
So for some years you continued to work for mister Forbes and you also worked part-time as an accordion soloist.
Jimmy Shand
Yes.
Presenter
When did you form your band?
Jimmy Shand
Well, I had a band in nineteen forty two, but the first real broadcasting band was in nineteen forty five. We did our first broadcast on New Year's Day, nineteen forty five.
Presenter
And you've brought the Hogman A in ever since, I believe.
Jimmy Shand
Yes, every hogmany I've been on the air.
Presenter
Twenty-one years without a break.
Jimmy Shand
Yeah.
Presenter
Last night.
Presenter
There's been a big boom in in Scottish country dancing, a boom to which you've contributed quite a lot. And of course we've seen you leading the revels many times on television. You must have a very big repertoire of
Presenter
Scott DeWitt.
Jimmy Shand
Yeah.
Presenter
Yes. Now are are all these tunes, these reels, traditional or are they still being written?
Jimmy Shand
Well, there's no end to the traditional music, but they're still writing new tunes and they're still devising new dances.
Presenter
But where's your headquarters, Jimmy?
Jimmy Shand
From my own home at Achtermachti.
Presenter
Ochte Mochti, you're you're known as the the laird of Ochte Mochti, aren't you?
Jimmy Shand
Oh yeah, but that's just a joke.
Presenter
How many nights in the week can you sleep in your own bed? You you're travelling a great deal, aren't you?
Jimmy Shand
Well, as often as I can, but uh it lot depends on where your jobs are.
Presenter
I believe you've motored a long way after a dance in order to get to your own home.
Jimmy Shand
Oh yes.
Presenter
What's the furthest?
Jimmy Shand
Well, I once travelled from Ahter Mukhtu down to South Sea, played the dance, and motored back home again.
Presenter
Well, that what's that, about eleven hundred miles there in bed?
Jimmy Shand
Yes, practically.
Presenter
Near Dundee is near Doctor Machti.
Jimmy Shand
Yes, about by road about thirty eight miles, as the crawl flies about eighteen.
Presenter
You've made command appearances at uh Balmoral.
Jimmy Shand
and also in Windsor Castle.
Jimmy Shand
and uh two command performances in Glasgow Theatre.
Presenter
Do you have many engagements as far south as that? Do you do you work a lot in England?
Jimmy Shand
Oh yes, uh wa qu quir a lot in England I would say there's eighty percent of my work is in England.
Presenter
Good.
Presenter
And of course you play overseas as well.
Jimmy Shand
Oh yes. I've been to New Zealand and Australia.
Jimmy Shand
Three times that job.
Presenter
Wherever there are two Scots there's a Caledonian society, isn't that right?
Presenter
Now your records, I know, have a very big sale among exiles.
Jimmy Shand
Yes, they do.
Presenter
You'll play the button accordion, not the piano key type.
Jimmy Shand
Yes.
Jimmy Shand
That's only a glorified melodin, just with multi-bass actually.
Presenter
You've had an accordion specially made for you, I believe.
Jimmy Shand
Yes, oh yes. The first one in nineteen thirty nine before the war.
Presenter
What are your hobbies, Jimmy?
Jimmy Shand
Well, my hobbies, you may say, is among motor engines.
Presenter
Yes. What kind of engines in particular?
Jimmy Shand
Menley Mortby.
Jimmy Shand
Yeah.
Presenter
Racing bikes
Jimmy Shand
Yes, yes. Have you ever raised?
Jimmy Shand
Well, I've had a few spots on the road really, but um
Jimmy Shand
I have three good racing bikes now.
Presenter
Yes. What is it about motorbikes? Is it taking you into bits or is it purely the speed?
Jimmy Shand
Now you get a good thrill with the motorbike, fresh air, it's a very healthy thing.
The general strike.
Presenter asks
How did that [working in a music shop] happen? That was a change from labouring.
Well, the way it happened was that the … I used to visit Dundee at weekends and naturally inclined I used to go and look into the music shop windows. … Used to admire the accordions. That was about all I could do with them, was admire them. I couldn't buy them. … and I happened to be standing there with a friend one day. … And he says to me, It doesn't cost you money to try them. So when we went, … and uh tried the accordion, and mister Forbes, the proprietor, he was kind of taken with the way we were playing, and he invited me any time I was in Dundee to come in and visit the shop.
Presenter asks
When did you start to get jobs playing those magnificent shiny accordions?
Well, I didn't do a lot of playing when I was before, but I was mainly a demonstrator … and a salesman, but we used to have recording concerts in which it didn't cost you a lot to get in, and we hoped that you would be interested in recordings and some day buy them.
“None other than playing the melodeon.”
“Well, I never had any ambitions to be anybody. I never really thought I would be an artist on television or recording or anything like that.”
“The general strike.”
“Oh yeah, but that's just a joke.”