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Desert Island Discs
Presented by Roy Plomley
A cowboy singer and film actor, known for recording old western songs and starring in Western movies.
Eight records
The keepsakes
The luxury
In conversation
Presenter asks
You've made so many records of the old western songs and sung so many in your films. Are you a collector of them?
Yes, I started very early collecting the cowboy songs, the old folk songs of the Southwest.
Presenter asks
What brought you into show business, Tex? How did it all start?
Well, when I was in the University of Texas I had worked up a kind of a lecture recital called The Cowboy and His Songs.
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What was your first professional job?
A radio station in Houston, Texas. Singing cowboy songs. From there I went to New York City and lived about four or five years.
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This download is the only extract the BBC has of this edition of Desert Island Discs. The presenter was Roy Plumley.
Tex Ritter
I was born in East Texas.
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That's uh Deep East Texas. I was born on a
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A cotton farm. It was a farm and a ranch. We had a lot of cattle and hogs and peanuts. We grew we grew corn, but cotton was the money crop, except if you had a cattle that were sold each year. Yes, so you learned to
Presenter
To write and A r Open Yeah.
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Uh
Presenter
Who has a boy?
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Yes, I did, Roy, but as far as the shooting is concerned, I
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Shop
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With a shotgun, not a pistol, that came after the movie era.
Presenter
Star. Yeah. Tex, you've made so many records of the old western songs and sung so many in your films. Are you a collector of them?
Presenter
Uh
Tex Ritter
Yes, I started very early.
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collecting the cowboy songs, the old folk songs of the Southwest.
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It's might call
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me one of the lucky people in the world that ended up making uh
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A vocation of my avocation, making a living out of my hobby.
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hobby that I started early in life. Wherever I go I like to take Western music with me because it's my favorite type of music. I like all kinds of music.
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But Western music, my favorite.
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What brought you into show business, Tex? How did it all start?
Tex Ritter
Well, when I was in the University of Texas I had worked up a kind of a lecture recital called The Cowboy and His Songs.
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And, uh, I guess it was that largely that started me
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Later on. What was your first professional job?
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A radio station in Houston, Texas.
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Singing cowboy songs. From there I went to New York City and lived about four or five years. Yes. And that really got you started?
Tex Ritter
Well, yes, I gave a few recitals there and I was in a few plays and was on the radio in New York and then in
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Nineteen thirty seven they brought me to Hollywood to star in the series of Western Pictures. Mhm.
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When I first landed in New York I met Carson Robison, who had just returned from England with the Mitchell brothers and Pearl Mitchell, the wife of one of the boys. Yes, I remember they were over here for quite a few years. Yes, they were very wonderful to me as a green Texas boy in a large city.
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Yeah.
Presenter
A radio and stage work took you to Hollywood and all those.
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Western Pictures
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Um where are these made, Texas? Is are are the locations in California?
Tex Ritter
Yes, uh most of them are made, or were made in the older days, even before I arrived there, at a little place Chatsworth, about forty miles out of Los Angeles, where you have a lot of different kind of scenery, a lot of rocks, a lot of mountains, a lot of wooded country, a lot of trails.
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And of course on all locations you have a western street. Some of mine we went further away. We made a lot of em in the high Sierras three hundred miles north of Los Angeles.
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I think I made four pictures near Prescott, Arizona. We made four in Utah.
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And I made one in the
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up in the Jackson Hole country in the winter time in Wyoming.
Presenter
Those worst ones look really like uh filmmaking the hard way, the real hard work with with those
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Uh
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Chases
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Uh Yeah.
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Well, I think anything that you like to do isn't that turns out to be not so difficult. Of course it's hard.
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We get up very early in the morning around four so that we can start shooting and the minute the sun comes up.
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and we work until the sun goes down. But strangely enough, Roy, the most difficult thing I found making Western pictures
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for the fights.
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Not the chases.
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Because the horse does a lot of that work. The fights.
Presenter
Okay.
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They leave the f
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Fights to the last in case anyone gets hit. It's always the last thing. You postpone all the big fights until the last. Not only the.
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You might uh get a few scratches on your face or something like that, or it's a possibility of getting hurt.
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But also in your interiors you tear up the furniture. Uh
Presenter
Yeah.
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What's the toughest stunt I've ever asked you to do in a Western
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It was once in Utah.
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yet a full gallop, for the heavies were chasing me, the villains, pardon me.
Presenter
Mm.
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Uh
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I had to turn in the saddle.
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facing the villains and shoot
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with both hands.
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And it was a matter of balance and equilibrium and I in I couldn't do it. I just couldn't. I had to hold on the candle of the saddle with one hand.
Presenter
Look my
Tex Ritter
Yes, na yeah, I couldn't do it and the stunt man on the picture couldn't either.
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But we had to finally call on a boy that had been a trick rider, of course, that to them that's a part of a and he was able to do it, doubling me, of course.
Presenter
Text, how's that fine white?
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That horse of yours, white flash.
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He's fine. He's twenty one years old. I had him in England with me here in London four years ago. Strangely enough, I haven't used him since I
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Took him back. He is now in San Fernando Valley. That's where you live? That's where I live. And uh I live in North Hollywood. The horse I keep in Van Euys. Of course the two little towns are just together. Mhm. Both in the city limits of Los Angeles.
Presenter
Your wife uh was
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You're leading
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Uh
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Played in quite a lot of your pictures. About three pictures. She played with me, yes.
Presenter
And when I children text.
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Edwin and
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The two little boys. Tommy is nine.
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Jonathan is seven, getting quite homesick for him.
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You have Do they show any talent?
Presenter
Uh
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Footsteps or further. Hoffbren.
Presenter
Yeah.
Tex Ritter
Well, they spend most of their time looking at television and occasionally the saying, Of course television is uh
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Just changed everything in America, not only show business, but the home life. About all we hear out of'em is
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Well, many thanks, Tex Ritter. Thank you very much. And as we sometimes say in America when we sign off our show,
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Always remember, friends, keep good thoughts and keep good company.
Where are these Western pictures made? Are the locations in California?
Yes, uh most of them are made, or were made in the older days, even before I arrived there, at a little place Chatsworth, about forty miles out of Los Angeles, where you have a lot of different kind of scenery… Of course on all locations you have a western street. Some of mine we went further away. We made a lot of em in the high Sierras three hundred miles north of Los Angeles. I think I made four pictures near Prescott, Arizona. We made four in Utah. And I made one up in the Jackson Hole country in the winter time in Wyoming.
Presenter asks
What's the toughest stunt you've ever asked to do in a Western?
It was once in Utah. Yet a full gallop, for the heavies were chasing me, the villains, pardon me. I had to turn in the saddle facing the villains and shoot with both hands. And it was a matter of balance and equilibrium and I in I couldn't do it. I just couldn't. I had to hold on the candle of the saddle with one hand. Yes, na yeah, I couldn't do it and the stunt man on the picture couldn't either. But we had to finally call on a boy that had been a trick rider, of course, that to them that's a part of a and he was able to do it, doubling me, of course.
“I think anything that you like to do isn't that turns out to be not so difficult. Of course it's hard.”
“the most difficult thing I found making Western pictures for the fights. Not the chases. Because the horse does a lot of that work. The fights.”
“I couldn't do it and the stunt man on the picture couldn't either. But we had to finally call on a boy that had been a trick rider, of course, that to them that's a part of a and he was able to do it, doubling me, of course.”
“Well, they spend most of their time looking at television and occasionally the saying, Of course television is uh Just changed everything in America, not only show business, but the home life.”
“Always remember, friends, keep good thoughts and keep good company.”